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 Re: cracking while tying
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2008-04-24 16:32

Re J

"Tying at 75 mm .. Are you using a particularly wide shape? I mostly tie at 73, and at 75 there's no way I would get a seal. Wider shapes crack more easily. Either that, or you are using staples with extremely narrow tips - which would DEFINITELY be a factor!"

I don't know whether my D12 Klopfers and E8s are considered narrow or not by German standards, but you are right, i should reconsider my shape + staple combination, the trouble is, with such a lack of shaper recources, how should i experiment! Difficult difficult difficult!

"Also, you thin 4-5 mm from the ends. This means that you have almost no bark under the thread! Another contributing factor? I know many makers who do not thin the ends at all, and consider it a purely aesthetic thing so that there are no ugly edges of cane showing through their wraps."

Although i thin the final 4-5mm of the ends, it is not awfully thin other than the most ends of the cane.

"When you thin the ends, do you use a piece of dowel? If you are thinning on a base with a circumference that is too "flat", you may be forcing the cane to flatten, which is a classic way to cause the cane to split. The equivalent of squeezing down a reed before doing any scraping."

I use an easel, so that is not a problem.

"When thinning the ends, leave a core of bark up the center, until about 1.5 mm from the extreme end where you taper off. Try thinning only 2-3 mm instead of 4-5 mm."

Thanks for the tip, i will try it out!

Re John,

I will try your soaking method as well!

Thanks again guys, great and insightful explanations!

Howard

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