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 Re: Reed length...
Author: RobinDesHautbois 
Date:   2011-01-06 00:09

Well, if we're going to get into that can of worms......

What Howard describes is nowhere near as bad as anyone who practices with a tuner!!! But I'll have words with anyone who believes short-scrape reeds are necessarily flat: I used to be frustrated at playing A=445 or worse back in my Montréal days: no instability and just tuning was fine. This is why I want to experiment with cane versus staple length today.

I was a research assistant at l'Institut de Recherche Pantonal, whose very unpopular founder (not very good people skills...) was a math graduate and a student of an astute devotee to Rameau's views on harmony. This followed in quite a lot of work on how chords are really built and how both harmony and voice-leading go hand in hand..... their theories were never even taken seriously, not because they lacked substance (more on what I can do with that in a composer's forum, perhaps!), but 100% because my mentor was just plain irreverant to the established academia and more insulting than old Snatch itself to anyone who would dismiss the science... can't go very far in the arts now, can they!

Craig is perfectly right in asserting that notes are NOT supposed to stay in the same place. Anyone who disbelieves us, take a very well tuned guitar with really good frets: play an A minor chord and be sure its in tune... now play a C major chord (or vice-versa)... that E really sounds out of place!!!! The A minor chord does show up a lot in C major tunes.

However, bowed strings are tuned in 5ths which is the last stable interval (the 8va being the only other). There are reasons for this that go way beyond harmonics.... understanding this is where the science of music departs from the branch of number theory, rather following theory of self-similarity.

So if you tune important key notes on your oboe such that the reed allows you to drop and raise all notes, this is quite fine. Strings are tuned by ensuring there are no "beats" in the 5ths (resulting notes). Woodwinds cannot do that, but we can develop an ear for where the notes should be.

Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music

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