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 Re: Making short scrape European style oboe reeds easy
Author: ceri 
Date:   2010-09-08 11:22

I have been shown the mouth exercices Robin mentions (and others) by English oboists and found them easy to do.

One also suggested playing the oboe first just with the bottom lip in contact with the reed and then just with the top lip in contact to feel what each lip does - the bottom lip controls tuning, the lip controls the tone. This was quite hard to do (particularly top lip only when I felt I was holding the oboe very insecurely and was afraid I would end up breaking the reed). I haven't done this with any regularity but it is an interesting experiment.

Thinking about it, I prefer Robin's description of "mouth" rather than lips. My French teacher attaches a lot of importance to the corners of the mouth (with his younger pupils he talks about making a sad fish face) and he claims that these muscles are paramount in controlling the reed. Although the reed doesn't move on my lips when I play lower notes, my bottom jaw does.

I'm not overkeen on high notes either but all my French reeds will play at least up to third octave G#, providing you use enough support and resist the temptation to bite down on the reed. (They may well go higher but I don't know the fingerings). If the top octave doesn't come out satisfactorily then you chop a bit off the end to make the tip shorter.

That said, my current preference for reeds is a slightly modified French scrape, influenced by the English (UK) reeds I have tried. The overall scrape and the tip are both slightly longer on the reeds I make myself than on the ones my teacher makes for me. My teacher has rather grudgingly admitted that this suits my current playing style but he assures me that I will "grow out of it" as my playing improves and go back to "proper" French scrapes.

The French reeds are incredibly stable intonation wise over the whole range of the instrument but the trade-off is that they are more tiring to play and fast-tonguing is harder.



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