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 Re: Making short scrape European style oboe reeds easy
Author: jhoyla 
Date:   2010-06-19 21:30

I played English short-scrape reeds for 14 years, and then switched to American scrape, which I have now been playing for 30 years. I make my own reeds. I am not a pro, but I'm reasonably well regarded on the local amateur circuit in Israel.

The first thing to recognize is that there is an entirely different embouchure used for English reeds versus American reeds. You control English reeds with the bite - that is, pressure from you jaw is used to control the reed opening. In complete contrast, the American embouchure is almost entirely open - the objective being to seal gently around the reed without affecting the reed opening, keeping the throat open and using "support" to maintain pitch.

French/English/German reeds are much truer to the cane (oboe as successor to the shawm), while American reeds are much truer to the wind (oboe as ultimate wind instrument). Both schools have their advantages, adn both can sound truly fabulous. Few American players have made it in Europe, and vice versa.

And then, there's Heinz Holliger.

While knife technique is obviously transferable, adjusting the different reeds is something that needs to be learned on each reed style. I have yet to find a good treatise in English that deals with adjusting English reeds, though I believe they do exist.

English reeds are MUCH longer lasting than American reeds which almost never last more than a couple of weeks.

J.
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