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Author: hautbois francais
Date: 2010-06-18 23:37
Ceri: First off, I'd like to thank you for your input and comments. I have posted my reply in brackets and caps. Please see below:
ceri wrote:
> Hautbois-français
> By scraping the sides I mean the sides of the reed (not the
> tip). My teacher occasionally slices a little off the sides
> (holding the reed vertically and slicing down) but I have never
> dared to try this.
(THIS SOUNDS MIGHTY DANGEROUS. I DONT THINK YOU MEAN "slicing down" LIKE HOW YOU WOULD WHEN SHAPING ON A SHAPER TIP. I THINK IT IS LIKE SCRAPING LIGHTLY ON THE SIDES OF THE READ ON ALL 4 SIDES OF IT, NO ?)
>
> You can rescrape everything (including the spine and the
> heart), if you rescrape everything evenly you will make the
> reed easier but at the expense of tone. (My 10-year-old
> daughter has just started learning the oboe and this is what
> her reeds are like - easy to blow but rather "quacky" tone).
(I USED TO GET ENGLISH REEDS BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN I WAS A KID FROM B&H, THEY WERE "ALL "QUACKY" AND WERE MEDIUM TO HARD STRENGTH. I THINK THE ENGLISH REEDS BEING "QUACKY" HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. THE FRENCH REEDS LOOK DIFFERENT, THAT IS WHY I AM SPENDING SO MUCH TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE FRENCH CONSTRUCTION. THE ENGLISH REEDS DONT EVEN HAVE A VISIBLE SPINE DOWN THE SCRAPED PORTION OF THE REED, MAYBE A LITTLE RAISED TAIL TOWARDS AND NEAR THE BARK. OR SCRAPED DOWN THIN. I HAD SAVED REEDS FROM ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO FROM THE ENGLISH TRADITION THAT IS HOW I KNOW THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.)
>
> I would be wary of just scraping the spine/heart as this may
> change the pitch of the reed.
>
> You're right about "ears" meaning tip corners. I'm not sure
> that I can give you precise measurements as it depends how wide
> your reed is to start with. When I was learning to make reeds
> my teacher used to get me to draw the inverted crescent on to
> the reed - it is a very wide, shallow crescent. If the centre
> is about 2mm then the maximum depth in the corners is probably
> only about 4 mm.
>
> One thing my teacher occasionally does is something that he
> said a French oboist who had worked in Canada for a while
> showed him. If you imagine your reed divided into three and the
> top third is the part that is scraped, then in the bottom third
> you can scrape two "windows." This does make some reeds easier
> to play but you really need someone to show you were to put
> them and how to angle them (and I haven't got any like that at
> the moment so I can't even offer to take a photo).
(I DONT KNOW WHAT 2 WINDOWS WOULD DO TO A SHORT SCRAPED REED, THEN IT WOULD ALSO THIN OUT THE BACK TOO MUCH COMPARED TO THE HEART, AS WHAT ROBIN SAID, THAT COULD BE A NO SCRAPE ZONE !)
>
> As others have said, the ideal thing would be for someone to
> show you. When I first started trying to make reeds I was
> obsessed by measurements as well but have since come to the
> conclusion that each reed is slightly different and you have to
> adjust accordingly.
(IF YOU ARE IN THE WESTERN WORLD AND LOTS OF OBOE FRIENDS AND ACADEMICS AROUND, SURE YOU CAN FIND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS TO SHOW YOU. TROUBLE IS, I DONT HAVE THIS LUXURY IM MY PRESENT LOCATION.)
>
> I now make my own reeds and my current preference is something
> of a cross between an English and a French scrape - I scrape
> slightly longer with a slightly longer tip and a more
> pronounced heart.
>
> One last thing, my teacher has a poor opinion of most of the
> French reeds that you can buy in shops. When I took some
> English reeds in to my lesson he was very favourably impressed
> and said that if it were possible to get reeds of that quality
> in France, he wouldn't feel he had to teach all his pupils how
> to make their own.
Post Edited (2010-06-19 00:27)
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-16 10:50 |
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Chris P |
2010-06-16 11:50 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-17 07:47 |
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jhoyla |
2010-06-16 17:39 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-16 22:45 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-06-18 00:10 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-18 03:27 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-06-18 10:05 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-18 11:05 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-06-18 16:38 |
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Re: Making short scrape European style oboe reeds easy new |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-18 23:37 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-06-18 16:46 |
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Chris P |
2010-06-16 23:03 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-17 02:06 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-17 04:33 |
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jhoyla |
2010-06-17 05:50 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-17 06:22 |
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ceri |
2010-06-17 20:21 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-17 23:28 |
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ceri |
2010-06-18 20:32 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-19 00:26 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-06-19 01:38 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-06-19 18:28 |
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ceri |
2010-06-19 13:16 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-19 14:43 |
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HautboisJJ |
2010-06-19 17:34 |
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jhoyla |
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hautbois francais |
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hautbois francais |
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hautbois francais |
2010-06-20 05:49 |
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hautbois francais |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-06-21 10:13 |
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hautbois francais |
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RobinDesHautbois |
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hautbois francais |
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RobinDesHautbois |
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hautbois francais |
2010-08-20 23:05 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-08-21 03:23 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-08-20 23:15 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-08-21 03:37 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-08-21 06:33 |
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hautbois francais |
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hautbois francais |
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ceri |
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RobinDesHautbois |
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hautbois francais |
2010-09-07 09:38 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-09-07 10:21 |
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ceri |
2010-09-07 14:56 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-09-07 16:10 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-09-07 22:33 |
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hautbois francais |
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ceri |
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GoodWinds |
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ceri |
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JRC |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-09-10 16:56 |
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JRC |
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JRC |
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hautbois francais |
2010-09-11 15:30 |
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RobinDesHautbois |
2010-09-11 17:15 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-09-12 00:07 |
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mjfoboe |
2010-09-12 03:16 |
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hautbois francais |
2010-09-12 03:23 |
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mjfoboe |
2010-09-12 12:21 |
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