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 Re: Making short scrape European style oboe reeds easy
Author: RobinDesHautbois 
Date:   2010-06-18 16:38

AHA, I didn't know about your experience: you also answered my question about shaper tips. So in this answer, please include all your reed-making experience.

To simply "soften" them, I would proceed as follows (this will also ensure a darker sound) - in very general terms:

Your reeds might be hard because they are too open? When you follow what is written below, your reeds might go unstable if they are too long. I'll explain what I do to shorten them.

You can lengthen the back by removing the bark to about 1/2 to 2/3 of the length of the cane. You can do this in small steps: unlike American-scrape, European style allows you to re-work the overall shape of the lay (scrape) - even if you need to cut the tip by 1-3mm and redo the blend completely.

A natural thick W will occur as you move the knife from more or less the middle of the back all the way to the front of the heart *on the sides*. Be sure that the back is never thinner than the heart (middle 1/3 of the length of the reed). If the reed remains too hard or open, thin down the W (a little bit at a time) until it looks more like a squashed U. You can also work the front of the heart to make the blend more gradual. On a few reeds, this process has ended-up looking like some pictures people have posted on Dutch and Viennese reeds (almost no bark an straight cut).

Also, I agree with all the advice about pinching.

Going from long-thick W to U is a natural consequence of what you do to soften the reed as you "back-up" the lay of the reed, try not to consider it as different scraping styles.

If you do decide to cut the tip short - usually because the sound buzzes or because it gets weak & unstable - then I usually start by moving the blend backwards and then cut it. This protects the tip and usually improves the sound.

I hope this helps!

Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music
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