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 Re: Can I use the C# trill key like a quickie C# key?
Author: oboeblank 
Date:   2008-07-17 03:56

"Short Fingerings" are different, like playing high E flat with half-hole, two, three and A-flat, (makes the little D flat major lick in the last movement of the Poulenc Trio a bit easier to play at the maniacal tempo); but to use a trill key instead was definitely a no-no in my lessons and is cause for a serious a**-kicking with my own students...poor things!
When I ask them why they are using these fingerings, which are always out of tune, inflexible and washed out in color they invariably will tell me that they are easy. Wrong answer. Using correct fingerings help improve technique and technique will not improve unless you practice, so always use real fingerings-is what my speech sounds like.

The open C# is for the thumb-plate oboe, and that fingering is, or used to be in the old editions of the Barret method. Barret himself played a modified, (thumb-plate) conservatoire system, but it was not a plateau model. The open hole or ring system did not mean that the oboe was Military or was a thumb-plate system. The plateau system-which is what we use today, was popularized by Gillet at the French conservatory and only through the importation of French trained oboists: Longy, Gillet, De Busscher, Tabuteau and others that the plateau system became the standard. As far as I am aware, there was not a great demand for imported Military bands in North America; so the most plausible reason for the open C# is the extensive use of the Barret method as the primary teaching tool.

By the way Howard, was the very, very famous Stateside oboist a Ms. E. D. of Julliard?

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Dutchy 2008-07-15 22:45 
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oboeblank 2008-07-17 03:56 
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vboboe 2008-07-16 18:00 
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oboedrew 2008-07-16 19:43 
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vboboe 2008-07-17 05:11 
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Ian White 2008-07-17 07:34 
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