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Re: Transposition: Is Violating the Composer's Intentions Justifiable?

Author: skygardener
Date: 2009-03-25 11:45

"Is Violating the Composer's Intentions Justifiable?"
It all depends on-
1. How much the composer knew about the specific characteristics of the instrument.
2. How much you respect those ideas.
In regard to #2, which seems like blasphemy at first, a very famous clarinetist once mentioned in a masterclass that he was at the moment re-writing a new work which he was to perform from Bb to A clarinet. He said, "I don't care that the composer wrote it first on Bb when it can be played much more easily on A. I can learn it better in less time on A than Bb. The composer is a composer, not a clarinetist."
During one of the lessons in this one-week masterclass, one of the students was having trouble with a difficult spot in the Nielsen- the section in question had some fast skips in the high register. The teacher tried playing it once and just picked up a pencil and said, "Just put a slur here and here and you should be fine." The WHOLE class looked at him like he had just committed a crime. His response to the question is everyone's mind was, "What!? If you hear 2 performances of the Mozart Concerto, they will have completely different articulations in the technical passages. If it is allowed for Mozart then why not for Nielsen."

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