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 Re: Reed dimensions and the golden mean
Author: Craig Matovich 
Date:   2007-06-08 17:51

If the glove don't fit, I will acquit...

but I really do see aspects of the Golden Mean in my reeds in the following way for the American style reeds I make:

(I like Fibonacci as a tangent approach to undertanding the golden mean and because it frequently occurs in nature, similar to the way the overtone series does.)

My tip and lay I see as one unit, and it measures aprox. 4.5 mm.

My heart measures on the long side of aprox. 7.25 mm.

My back scrape below the heart ( channels or whatever one chooses to call them) measures aprox. 11.75 mm, again on the long side of things.

So the golden mean constant = aprox. 1.618...

Tip of 4.5 * 1.618 = 7.28 which is about how my reed's heart is cut.

Heart of 7.28 * 1.618 = 11.78 which is how long my channels extend below the heart.

The Fibonacci series adds its two previous numbers to generate the next in sequence, so 4.5 + 7.28 = 11.78. So the series or at least a portion of it appears to relate to my reeds dimensions at least for the scraped portion.

I don't consider staple length, because it is essentially an extension of the oboe's bore.

I don't fuss with these measurments while meaking a reed, although I might pay a bit more attention here out.

The 4.5 tip - lay measure is aproximate and from measuring several of my best reeds, they range from 3.5 to 4.5, and the other associated areas also seem to co-vary keeping the sequence intact.

I have not measured these before this thread and waited for the discussion to ensue for a while to see if any other insghts might happen.

Anyone know where the series of 4.5 - 7.28 -11.78, or ratios between those in series would fall in the overtone series?

(Reed crows an equal tempered c'' above an A = 440 hz standard, oboe fundamental is ...? A 220, I think, although someone left the low A off my oboe, but then someone also left the finger tips off my mountain biking gloves, therefore they are aprox. gloves.)



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