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 Poulenc Sonata for two clarinets...
Author: donald 
Date:   2019-02-28 13:01

I've performed this piece many times over the years, including as a featured soloist with the Auckland Chamber Orchestra (and as both the B flat and A part). One note has always mystified me - at figure 1 in the 1st mvt the E sharp in front of the grace note SHOULD carry on to the E semiquaver/16th note on beat 2.
Except, many performers play the E as an E natural (including on commercial recordings).
I have actually played it both ways over the years. And been told that "it should be an E" by more than one teacher/performer but never presented with any evidence to support this.
What note do YOU play? Does anyone know of some legend etc that supports the E natural? I know which one I PREFER but they both should like Poulenc, I'm curious to see what experience and knowledge others have of this...

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 Re: Poulenc Sonata for two clarinets...
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2019-02-28 16:20

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001212.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001213.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001221.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001234.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001239.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001251.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001252.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001256.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001259.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/1999/01/001262.txt

Tony



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 Re: Poulenc Sonata for two clarinets...
Author: donald 
Date:   2019-03-01 01:23

ooops sorry... i was on my phone that barely gets the internet - making searches annoying. I'll do the work myself next time, thanks for finding those threads.

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 Re: Poulenc Sonata for two clarinets...
Author: donald 
Date:   2019-03-01 01:34

Just a few minutes ago I was explaining to some young students the meaning of the expression "opening Pandora's box".
I recall being told that an early recording of this, supervised by Poulenc, had the E natural. But can find no evidence of this and have only been able to access recordings made after 1963 (when Poulenc died).
I prefer the E natural myself, but have played the E sharp (mainly to please a teacher, and when a snooty 2nd player sneered at me "it's E sharp, didn't you know that?" and I was too embarrassed to argue, because it IS an E sharp...
I'm only really concerned by it at the moment because I'm teaching this piece to some advanced students, one of whom is quite pedantic, and I am of course wanting to present as strong a case as possible for the E natural.
dn

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 Re: Poulenc Sonata for two clarinets...
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2019-03-01 04:41

Best you can do is to say, pedantically, that there is no incontrovertible evidence, I suppose:-)

Tony

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