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 Re: Yamaha 411 vs. Buffet 4052
Author: vboboe 
Date:   2005-11-14 05:13

<<There is one thing though, vboboe, sharper does not mean brighter, and nor does the other way around. (it is largely affected by means of embouchure, posture, reeds etc.) >>

<<I think the intonation issue might be because in fact, the Japanese manufactured oboes are mostly made in 442, but i don't think that is a very big factor to consider, when slight adjustments can be made to reeds and i aint too sure about the oboes made in American by Yamaha >>


OK, mulled over and digested your comments awhile, technically speaking, sharper does not mean same as brighter, agreed. Think i meant brightness in the sense it identifies notes sharper in the pipe rather than flatter, methinks that depends on instrument's cut, tone holes, pads, settings, etc. plus reed and player issues as you mentioned.

Can see how it's confusing semantically, when any in-tune note can also sound brighter (more vibrant) or duller (less vibrant), which are more likely to be reed and player issues than instrument issues ... although a pad or cap set a bit too high does tend to make notes both brighter and sharper, now it's really confusing ... !

On t'other hand, 442 is actually 2 clicks sharper than 440 so if oboe is tuned at 442, it generally tunes on the sharp side with itself, yes?
Isn't the whole idea with reeds to try and make them play 440 with neutral embouchure?

So, with a 'sharp oboe' does that mean it's practical to scrape the reed to crow just a bit flatter than concert C (can't recall tuner frequency number for C), and/or lip down generally with whatever reed one has?

Thankfully as you say it's not that big a difference in real life, but hey, students obsess about this sort of thing ...

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