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 Re: Yamaha 411 vs. Buffet 4052
Author: sömeone 
Date:   2005-10-08 03:41

My oboe for the past 2 years before i got myself my DM was a Yamaha 411,
it's a fabulous oboe i must say, and i myself think it is actually quite dark in tone! Well, i won't be able to compare them with my expertise, but i can assure you that the new yamaha 441 is gonna be one of the top intermediate models out there. I have actually played an intermediate Buffet before, but that was the days when i couldnt even play a decent long tone. Haha...sorry about that.

There is one thing though, vboboe, sharper does not mean brighter, and nor does the other way around. (it is largely affected by means of embouchure, posture, reeds etc.) The yamaha is modeled based on a very large span of oboes, and they are quite experienced. Because their research is oriented in Japan, with most of the experts coming from America (most Japanese professional oboists are actually American style players, with variations of their own of course), their instruments are designed to sound good with the American reeds. While not to say that yours saying that the Yamaha sounds brighter is wrong, it's like i always say, a very personal thing. The reeds which i use now does not work too well with the Yamaha anymore, since i've accustomed them for the Loree. So there are many factors to consider. I think the intonation issue might be because in fact, the Japanese manufactured oboes are mostly made in 442, but i don't think that is a very big factor to consider, when slight adjustments can be made to reeds and i aint too sure about the oboes made in American by Yamaha. (and aint it possible to ask them to make them in 440?)

I don't think undercut tone holes will darken the sound. Their function is to improve intonation, not so??? ??? North American prefers saxophone like and warmer sound? As long as it projects well and has good intonation, i think it is going to be a good intermediate instrument. Tonal issues are just too personal to cling on to too much. I thought that's like German...haha....well anyways, just my insight into this. Good luck in choosing that instrument... (Not gonna consider Fox?)

Howard.

p.s. concerning Yamaha, the Canadians on this board will die to tell you how good they are, just post a new topic titled YAMAHA and a swarn of deadly professionals will go in and persuade you with all means to buy one.

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