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Possible doubling in Messiaen's "Eclairs sur l'au-dela"

Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2021-10-27 03:26

For anyone who has played this work (and can remember), in the clarinet section is it possible to double certain parts?
The clarinets required are: 2 Eb clarinets, 6 Bb clarinets, bass clarinet and contrabass clarinet.

Thanks,
Simon

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Re: Possible doubling in Messiaen's

Author: davyd
Date: 2021-10-30 21:27

Ten players - I can see why you'd want to combine parts if you can.

Is this the record for most clarinetists needed in an orchestral work? (According to what's on IMSLP, the choral section of H. Brian's 'Gothic' symphony needs eleven.)

Post Edited (2021-10-31 05:44)

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Re: Possible doubling in Messiaen's "Eclairs sur l'au-dela"

Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2021-10-31 13:10

Here's the score.

https://issuu.com/scoresondemand/docs/eclairs_vol_1_51247

Tom Piercy

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Re: Possible doubling in Messiaen's "Eclairs sur l'au-dela"

Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2021-10-31 19:03

Wow! Thanks Tom. I didn't know about this site.

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Re: Possible doubling in Messiaen's "Eclairs sur l'au-dela"

Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2021-11-02 13:59

Simon,
Enjoy the score, and the piece if you're playing it.

Tom Piercy

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Re: Possible doubling in Messiaen's "Eclairs sur l'au-dela"

Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2021-11-02 19:09

Thanks Tom,

If you still live in Montreal, you will be able to hear it (if it happens), in February 2023.
Walter Boudreau is hoping to include the piece in his festival MNM (Montreal Nouvelles Musiques), as a collaboration between several orchestras and maybe his ensemble (SMCQ).
Regarding doubling, the only possible double is contrabass clarinet/one of the two Eb clarinets. Those are the only two clarinets that do not play at the same time.

Best,
Simon

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Re: Possible doubling in Messiaen's "Eclairs sur l'au-dela"

Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2021-11-02 21:23

The issuu.com site is great. It's not just scores and sheet music. There are also programs, program notes, magazines, audition lists, pamphlets, brochures, publisher's catalogs, catalogs of gear, etc.

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Re: Possible doubling in Messiaen's "Eclairs sur l'au-dela"

Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2021-11-03 13:12

Simon,

No longer spending time in Montreal. Cut down the living in three places to two (NYC and Tokyo).

Have a great concert. Would be good to see/hear that Messiaen live.

Tom Piercy

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