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 Re: Euro vs American sound
Author: ckoboe777 
Date:   2017-07-25 19:38

Chris P wrote:

> As did both Heinz Hiolliger and Maurice Bourgue, so they are
> more French than Swiss in their playing.
>
> I wouldn't say they have a thin sound (referring to an earlier
> comment), more like a lot of overtones to their sound as the
> low notes they play are particularly resonant, but the high
> harmonics are there and strong which gives their sound that
> 'ping' as someone called it. Strident being another word - very
> assertive and far from the more reserved, apologetic sound I
> tend to find some American players I've heard.
>

I personally wouldn't agree with "apologetic". I think a more correct word would be more "controlled" and "restrained". Personally, I believe that restraint prevents music from being too sentimental and shallow; it prevents impulsive emotion or expression from swamping the phrasing. (not that Holliger or Bourgue are like this)

Take the oboe solo in the Tchaikovsky 4th symphony. Phrasing aggressively throughout to can make it sound hysterically mournful and somewhat sappy. In contrast, using restraint and careful calculation can make the solo sound like, in the words of John Mack, "rocking the baby to sleep, only the baby's dead".

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