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 Re: Euro vs American sound
Author: ckoboe777 
Date:   2017-07-02 23:47

oboist2 wrote:

> Once upon a time, when I was young, there were so many styles
> of oboe playing that every country in Europe had their own
> sound and style. it made listening fun, and you generally
> could tell which country an orchestra came from and sometimes
> even which orchestra by the sound of their oboes, Sometime in
> the '80s, this started to change, and nowadays it is very
> different to tell one oboist from another as the sound has
> become very standardised, as has the manner of playing. I
> feel it is a great loss as individuality has been stifled. Now
> there were some sounds of yesteryear that would have curdled
> milk, so it was not always a rosey picture, but the difference
> of sound and style has even affected the "American" school of
> playing and the differences between that and the "European"
> school are a lot more blurred. This is not to denigrate the
> musicianship and technical prowess of many fine players these
> days, but we have lost more than most people realise.

I still think that European players are very distinguishable from American oboists, especially German oboists.

While the bright-dark scale ranges for both American and European oboists, I find that European style oboists have more "buzz" in their sound compared to American players, who typically have a more "focused" sound.

Also, European players, especially German style players, tend to exaggerate (not necessarily in a bad way) their phrasing/expression more than American oboists. For example, I know someone who studied with Albrecht Mayer and then switched to American style with Liang Wang, and one of the things she noticed was that the vibrato of German players is a lot more pronounced than American players. (an extreme example of that would be Albrecht Mayer vs. John Mack)

-ckoboe

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