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 Re: Want to play in HS band? Pass a drug test
Author: dfh 
Date:   2007-08-30 02:49

"A modest proposal: Use the drug tests, then enroll all the druggies in extracurricular activities such as band and orchestra in order to give these kids something more exciting, interesting and challenging to do than lie around gorking up."

Best idea I've heard! But you'd have to do it to every kid in the school. (Which I just don't agree with...but this is the way it's going) This would be ABOUT THE KIDS. There are so many levels of users, experimenters, the vast majority of whom turn into wonderful, contributing members of society. Give them something to do, something to be proud of, something thier parents can get involved in, perhaps the experiment will be just that and the addicition and heavier use won't follow.

To me, mandatory drug testing is the easy way out for parents who won't take responsibility for being parents. If you don't know your kid has a problem, you have a problem. Go through their pockets, ask them what they're doing. Take a good whiff of their breath/hair when they get home. It's not that hard. Get to know their friends and their friends parents. This is my alternative to drug testing. Give classes on how to catch your kid - what to look for etc. Probably a heck of a lot cheaper than drug testing!

Also, the stigma that is placed on kids/people who are users drives me crazy. There are so many good people, good kids that do stupid things, but that's what they do to learn to do what's right. That's why zero tolerance is a huge mistake. To expell the top student for PASSING A BOTTLE. To ruin a life over a simple mistake. It's avoiding the problem. Kids need compassion. We all do.

And the 'kids these days" line. Sneaking booze on the band trip has been happening since the first band trip ever.

Kicking kids out of Band, or soccer because they tested positive for pot isn't going to help. It's going to make them feel worse about themselvse, and then what? If the parents weren't paying enough attention to catch the problem, are they going to pay enough attention to stop the depression? And the adults that give them attention - the coaches and band directors are out too, and the kids are left to fend for themselves.

Ok, I'll stop the rant. what an amazing thread this has been!

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