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 I am really amazed...
Author: m1964 
Date:   2024-02-11 04:09

when reading some clarinets description on ebay.
I thought I've seen it all- sellers listing E11 as r13, junk as "highly desired vintage", but this last one got me:
"The unique aspect of this offering is that it has mixed serial numbers - 279268 and 258614 - adding a distinctive touch to this remarkable instrument."
And the listing price of $2500...



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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: Fuzzy 
Date:   2024-02-11 07:15

Haha!

I guess Johnny Cash's "One Piece at a Time" car would be worth at least a couple million then.

Fuzzy
;^)>>>

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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: stevesklar 
Date:   2024-02-11 08:52

there's many E-11, E12, C12 etc that try to get sold off as R-13s.
They'll also rub down the model number so it's not easily noticeable and thus kinda look like an R13.

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Stephen Sklar
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Post Edited (2024-02-11 08:54)

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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: Julian ibiza 
Date:   2024-02-11 14:55

Damn!....And I just bought that Bb on eBay for 6,000€ . I thought it was a bargain given that some Benny Goodman fan got it run over by the big cheese's car...... It looked like all the pieces were there in the photo. LOL

Julian Griffiths
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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2024-02-12 22:51

I assume this is not the case, but there's one Buffet endorser who occasionally chooses instruments for students at the Buffet factory in France and he specifically mixes and matches sections from different models. I don't know if they would let anyone else do that, or even any endorser... maybe?

Obviously if someone here would sell an instrument like that they would advertise it as feature that it was chosen by this player rather than simply having different serial numbers on the different sections.

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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: Hurstfarm 
Date:   2024-02-13 23:48

Who can resist a two for one offer?!

I can just about understand why someone might look for the perfect combination of upper and lower joints, but to do it after the serial numbers are stamped on seems like a sure way to destroy its eventual resale value. If true, Buffet is presumably then left with two non-matching half instruments. Then, by extension, they’d have to be paired with other new upper and lower joints, which would need to be stamped with serial numbers to match. Hmm…

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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: donald 
Date:   2024-02-14 16:38

I have shared the story on this board before of a former Principal player from one of the top US orchestras performing the Mozart concerto on a "franken-clarinet" (as far as I recall, an R13 "Vintage" model combined with an R13, but can't remember which was on top/bottom). However I'm pretty sure that he owned both clarinets before he tried the combo...
True story. Can't say if he continued this experiment, but it was a real thing when he was here in NZ and had performed in US with this combo.
A friend of mine also has a clarinet that is R13 top joint and E13 lower joint (he had acquired various "bits" over the years and put them together) and this plays quite nicely- certainly better than some of the NEW R13s I get to play when testing out instruments for my students.

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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: m1964 
Date:   2024-02-14 20:42

Recently, I tried using lower half from a 1977 r13 with the top from 1965 R13, and vise versa- both "combos" were playable, without any significant tuning issues, even though there were, supposedly, some modifications between 1965 and 1977.

I am not saying that clarinet from eBay is not playable, but to advertise mismatched serial numbers as "a unique feature"...?



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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: crazyclari 
Date:   2024-02-16 11:33

Ha ha, i bought two new replacement joints for a Leblanc L7 fromabout 1980. No serial numbers. Put some replated keys from a flogged L7. Its a cracker. It looks brand new. I am not selling or claiming anything re some collectability😀

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 Re: I am really amazed...
Author: senexclarinetta 
Date:   2024-02-16 17:59

I think I know the seller's page, and that kind of dishonesty is really off-putting. They might be selling clarinets in decent condition but why risk it?

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