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 Re: If double lip embouchure is so good then..
Author: kdk ★2017
Date:   2023-06-25 19:34

SunnyDaze wrote:


> I have no overbite at all . When my jaw is relaxed and I move
> my lower jaw up and down, the tips of my incisors click
> together.
>
> With SL I am pulling my lower jaw a long way back towards my
> ears in order to make space for the mp.

> > Conversely, when I play DL I tip my head forward a little so my
> chin points slightly towards the floor. Then the clarinet can
> go into my mouth easily.
>
> I think it is the pulling back of my jaw that hurts in the SL
> embouchure.
>
> With the DL the embouchure it doesn't hurt really. But it is an
> effort to engage it, and it runs out of steam after about ten
> minutes.

So, in the SL embouchure, you're distorting your lower jaw position and stressing the muscles, maybe now to the extent that they're inflamed to begin with and the stress immediately aggravates it.

In DL, you may be putting unnatural stress on your neck muscles and (perhaps) nerves and they aren't conditioned to it (and maybe won't ever be).

One thing you don't mention is changing the angle of the instrument itself (and consequently the mouthpiece) as it enters your mouth. Have you tried reducing or increasing the instrument angle? Tipping your head forward for DL goes in that direction, but maybe there's a better angle if you experiment. Keep your head facing straight forward and move the bell higher and lower to see if you can find a comfortable position. Professional players angle the instrument anywhere from practically against their abdomen to almost parallel to the floor (sometimes even changing their angle for different color effects or maybe to accommodate reeds). With your top and bottom incisors so even, an angle going more straight out (more like many oboists but not quite so much) might work better for you.

But, again, if you experiment with this, a live and knowledgeable listener/watcher in the room could evaluate the resulting sound far better than people exchanging messages over the Internet can.

Karl
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