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 Re: If double lip embouchure is so good then..
Author: symphony1010 
Date:   2023-06-25 14:08

The reasons to avoid double lip are well established. Firstly, without teeth in contact with the top of the mouthpiece the instrument will move in the mouth when fingers are active - not good! Stabilisation is crucial.

Secondly, many have argued that articulation speed is reduced as the mouth is now more open with double lip.

I remember using double lip until around the age of 16 as I had read a tutor book which suggested it. I think it was the first Tune a Day tutor, God help me! My first teacher didn't spot what I was doing but a later professor at Trinity College, London weaned me of it over about 10 days. Until then I suffered much pain in the top lip from the effects of the top teeth carving ruts inside my top lip!

I can see no good reason to resurrect the double lip embouchure which seemed to originate because the first clarinettists transitioned from the oboe. Those that suggest it avoids some kind of 'biting' are obviously not playing correctly to start with!

At this time there seem to be many young, and not so young players starting to look back with nostalgia at old playing techniques and also old, outdated equipment. The latter was probably great in its day but with modern design and tolerances being so much improved I believe these moves are misplaced.
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