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 Luyben Ligature with Legere European Signature: A GAME CHANGER
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2020-05-26 23:52

Dear Board:

If you use Legere European Signature reeds you HAVE to try this ligature!!! If you tried Legere European Signature reeds and they were just not quite up to your standards you NEED to try them again with the Luyben ligature.



What the newest Luyben does (these come with the knurled round grip sections on the screws):


o Much more resonance to the sound. This also equals LOUDNESS (greater dynamic range)

o MUCH more definition and punchiness to articulated notes

o Punchy low E and Low F notes: these tended to be less defined with Legere than cane


I found this out while hunting for more ligatures that bind at the top and bottom of the reed's stock (like the Bonade ligature with the center cut out). There are not many options out there.


I am pretty certain now that the effect that I get with the Luyben is partly the design and also to a great extent the material. I cannot say why it works so incredibly well, but some reasons may be the fact that the plastic stretches slightly even when tightened down. Plastic is very light weight. The material is rather inert and neither adds nor detracts from the Legere reeds.


I have been comparing to just about everything else out there, with the best conventional ligature being a Scott ligature (same basic design as the Luyben). The difference is STUNNING!!!! Though I am happy with the basic tone of the Scott, once I switch back to the Luyben, the sound opens up with the Luyben and can be much louder (when needed of course).


I want to address the breaking in period. In a Luyben search on this Board there was discussion about the break-in method. The important part (as far as I can tell) is to get the ligature to take on the contour of your mouthpiece/reed combo. To do this the important part of the instructions seem more to be breaking in the ligature for three days and NOT tightening the ligature as much as humanly possible.

My recommendations


o Oil the threads and screws first! (makes it easy to feel the tension in your fingers)

o Apply only enough tension to the ligature to allow it to "form fit" to your mouthpiece

o place the plate part of the ligature (sticks up a bit) right at the line of ligature

o buy new if you already have one (likely broken in for cane and even another mouthpiece)

o Buy direct from Luyben. The newest versions come with screws that have the knurled round grip sections.......MUCH easier to judge tension; apply; remove





.................Paul Aviles



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