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 Re: Want to play in HS band? Pass a drug test
Author: Ski 
Date:   2007-08-29 23:19

bstutsman,

I couldn't agree with you more that kids don't use good judgement as well as adults. They are kids, after all, and that's precisely my point --- if kids are doing drugs at a young age, it's because they don't know any better. Kids in math, history, or science class are no different from those with an interest in sports or music (the latter two categories of course being the ones which the Utah school district ruling targets kids for drug testing). So on one hand, yes, the ruling is discriminatory. But my more ardent position is that kids, by dint of their youth don't know better, shouldn't be punished for making the mistake of dabbling in drugs or alcohol; rather, they should be helped. Interventions, counseling, and probably best of all, having their parents show some balls and "do something about their kids".

If you aren't aware of the pleasures of a poppyseed bagel with cream cheese, you are missing one of the great joys in life. In fact, if you haven't had an authentic poppyseed hamentashen (a traditional pastry made during the Jewish holiday of Purim) then I will gladly send you some next time Purim swings 'round! The only problem with poppyseeds, though, is that they can trigger false positives in drug tests.

In closing, I don't think you're a cold, uncaring fascist. Based on what you've written here, I think you put a little too much trust in the notion that all rules are good rules, and that chemical testing isn't prone to both chemical and human error. I admire your sticking to your guns on your position, even though I don't think we'll ever see eye-to-eye on this subject. However, I could probably convince you to learn to love poppyseeded baked goods!

Ski
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