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Re: Want to play in HS band? Pass a drug test

Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2007-07-31 17:40

Ed, I think you're right on about "suspects," but there's also something else going on that I think is the actual, but subliminal, reason for it all: the opportunity to exercise power over those who have no choice but to submit. Clarinetwife, I'm sorry, but as an SA counselor from time to time, the idea that all this drug testing is being done mostly for the sake of the kids is laughable (for reasons that I won't go into here).

Schools don't do it because they think it's going to help, but because parents force them to. Parent think it's going to have an significant positive effect on substance use, and it's an easy, tangible way to go. (When in doubt, do SOMETHING...even if it doesn't work.) So schools go along with it because they're forced to, and it protects them against law suits. However, more and more organizations and businesses that are in no real jeopardy of being injured require "voluntary" drug testing and "voluntary" credit checks and "voluntary" releases for background investigations for positions that have no significant monetary, informational, or physical "risk areas" that would warrant such things. Don't "volunteer," and you're blackballed.

This is even worse for those applying for lower-rung jobs, fast food or landscaping labor, for example. One of my students applied for a job with one of the big burger places, and was grilled (pun!) in three interviews about her school history, forced to have a drug test before the first interview, and her parents had to consent to credit and criminal investigations for both the girl and themselves. For a minimum wage job!

There will be those who will say that, if she didn't want to go through all of this stuff, she could have gone elsewhere for a job, but in U.S. society nowadays, there arent' that many places "elsewhere" to go for a high school kid looking for summer work.

I think that the motivation for drug testing, credit checking, etc. has very little to do with safety or "helping." Paranoia hidden under the guise of ensuring safety may have incited all of this, but what perpetuates it is even simpler: Exercising a legal sanction to wield power over those who have no choice but to submit.

"Just say no"? It's easier to just say no to drugs than it is to just say no, in the U.S., to institutionalized invasions into your personal life.

B.

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