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Author: oboedrew
Date: 2009-08-03 23:49
cjwright wrote:
> It does indeed hold up. Machine made reeds are so bad because
> they scrape out the structure of the reed, including the bark
> off of the rails, they provide no definition, they don't get
> the corners thin enough, and they can't properly define the
> windows.
Everything you described is an adjustment to the outside of the reed. "Internal," of course, refers to the inside. Removing the rails is not changing the internal structure. It's changing the external structure.
cjwright wrote:
> How much is "some"? Have you reground blades? Used single and
> double radius machines? For not being interesting in the
> machines, you certainly seem to think you know a lot about it.
Cooper, are you actually reading my posts? I've never claimed to know any more than the average oboist about gougers. But I do know a lot about scraping. And I know that I can adapt my scrape to work quite well with many gouges.
cjwright wrote:
> I'm not saying someone has to build gougers, but until you have
> worked with enough different gouging machines, ground blades
> and experimented with different curves, enough to know the full
> capabilities of what a gouge can and can not do, then I don't
> think you're qualified to instruct others.
If you'd like to come to Columbus and arrange a lesson, I'd be happy to show you how I adapt my scrape to different gouges. Until then, I'm quite sure you don't know enough about my pedagogical methods or capabilities to suggest that I am unqualified. You are entirely out of line.
cjwright wrote:
> You should also note that your opinions regarding the
> unimportance of the gouge go against close to 100 years of the
> American school of oboe knowledge, dating back as far as
> Tabuteau, Mack, de Lancie, and their pupils as well.
That is inaccurate. There is no consensus on this, not even in America. My ideas did not develop in a vacuum. I learned what I know from other oboists, as we all do. And all of my teachers traced their lineage back to Tabuteau.
Also, let me reiterate that the gouge is not unimportant. It is just one of many factors. The scrape is more important, but that does not make the gouge unimportant. This is a significant distinction.
Cheers,
Drew
www.oboedrew.com
Post Edited (2009-08-03 23:51)
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