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Author: Hey_Pauly
Date: 2022-12-07 04:57
Hello,
I am wondering what the differences between the 4c, 5c, 6c and 7c Yamaha mouthpieces are?
Thanks.
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Author: David H. Kinder
Date: 2022-12-07 06:17
LMGTFY:
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/winds/mouthpieces/mouthpiece-guide/clarinet.html
Getting back into playing after 20 years.
Ridenour AureA Bb clarinet
Vandoren M15 Profile 88 (non-13) mouthpiece
Vandoren Optimum Silver ligature (plate 1)
Vandoren blue-box #3.5 reeds
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Author: donald
Date: 2022-12-07 13:20
Each of those mouthpieces has a larger tip opening- the 4C is about the same as a Vandoren 5RV, the 5C about the same as the 5RV Lyre, Lomax "3" facing or a Hite Premiere. I have many students using the 4C and it is perfectly fine as a beginner mouthpiece but as students progress they find it difficult to play with a wide dynamic range, response is often uneven and the general sound quality/tone is good at specific dynamic levels but tends to lack focus at louder dynamics and to lack richness at softer dynamics.
The 5C mouthpieces are a bit too resistant for my liking, I reface these for students to a facing similar to the Dadario Evolution mouthpiece (ie similar tip opening to 5RV Lyre, but longer facing that is more free blowing) and this improves them I believe, but they are never GREAT.
I have never even SEEN a 6C and 7C, I know they exist but must be on special order as they are never supplied with instruments and not in any shop I have ever visited. 99% of the 4Cs I've seen came as the stock mouthpiece with a student instrument.
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Author: Hey_Pauly
Date: 2022-12-07 19:45
Thanks Donald. That is exactly the kind of info I am looking for. I thought the Yamahas would be an upgrade from the piece I am using. That would appear to not be the case.
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Author: concertmaster3
Date: 2022-12-08 08:37
Might we know what you are using currently, Pauly?
Ron Ford
Woodwind Specialist
Performer/Teacher/Arranger
http://www.RonFordMusic.com
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Author: justwannaplay
Date: 2022-12-09 13:53
"I have never even SEEN a 6C and 7C, I know they exist but must be on special order as they are never supplied with instruments and not in any shop I have ever visited. 99% of the 4Cs I've seen came as the stock mouthpiece with a student instrument."
My student Yamaha came with a 6C - I have know idea why - this was sold to me as a new instrument (in 2004). Taking it up again a few weeks ago, I was struggling with the clarinet and then I looked up the 6C to find that it is for experienced players. (Now, at the time of purchase I was returning to the instrument after a very long time - my embouchure was not "experienced" then for sure.)
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Author: donald
Date: 2022-12-10 03:07
justwannaplay - interesting, never heard of that happening in the last 30 years of teaching.
That said, there's nothing about a 6C that would make it "for experienced players" except for marketing (or some shop store jockey who needs to try to sound knowlegable). It just has a wider tip opening and longer lay. Matched to the correct reed it's going to play pretty much the same as a 4C, nothing advanced or "professional" about any of these mouthpieces - they are just the same mouthpiece with different lays.
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Author: justwannaplay
Date: 2022-12-11 13:52
Point taken Donald. I don’t have a softer reed around to see whether I’d take to it a bit more, otherwise I’d try that.
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Author: Hey_Pauly
Date: 2022-12-14 05:27
Hi Ron,
Sorry for the delay in responding to your post. I am currently using a store branded mouthpiece that came with my clarinet when I bought it.
Cheers!
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