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 Cadenza in Orpheus Overture
Author: Ed Lowry 
Date:   2019-01-18 01:39

Offenbach's Orpheus in the Underworld overture has a short cadenza starting an measure 35, basically in two parts beginning with a low F with an arpeggio to high C (first half and High Bb (second half). Both halves end with a trilled top-line [F5].

My teacher thought that the second trill should go to F#, rather than G natural, but said she was far from sure about it. Does anyone with experience playing the piece have any thoughts about what's correct, or whether it might be an option for the player?

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 Re: Cadenza in Orpheus Overture
Author: GBK 
Date:   2019-01-18 01:54

2nd trill is F to Gb. At that point you are outlining Bb minor (thus the F-Gb).

BTW - the final grace notes are E natural to F. Some versions (ex: The Bonade book) leave off the natural sign on the E.

Kalman Bloch orchestral excerpt book Vol. III has a corrected version of the cadenza.

NY Philharmonic w/Drucker. Cadenza at: 1:04


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 Re: Cadenza in Orpheus Overture
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2019-01-18 03:41

In the band version of course the solo clarinet also has to play the violin cadenza, and I have always found this trickier than the actual "clarinet" cadenza.
Anyone else find that ?
We don't have the option of shifting positions like the violins.

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 Re: Cadenza in Orpheus Overture
Author: davyd 
Date:   2019-01-19 04:32

Re the violin cadenza: it depends on the arrangement, of which there are several. In the one I played most recently, the violin cadenza is assigned to the flute.

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 Re: Cadenza in Orpheus Overture
Author: hartt 
Date:   2019-01-19 08:50
Attachment:  2.jpg (1862k)

as GBK mentioned, this is the accepted 2sd trill

this is from the 1921 Clarinet Cadenzas-----How to Phrase Them by G. Langenus

the top is the original and below is the interpretation.
The 2sd trill is from F to Gb and is preceded by F aND Gb grace notes

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