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 Re: Strauss Oboe Concerto cl part transposed at BSO?
Author: Simon Aldrich 
Date:   2010-10-30 21:55

"but maybe he had his reasons".

I wonder this as well. I just did Petroushka, the version which has the clarinet parts in only Bb. The previous version of Petroushka has the clarinet parts written in A and Bb, according to what is most technically and sonically fluid. Did Stravinsky rewrite the A cl parts into Bb on purpose, was it an oversight on the part of the editor, or perhaps a signature cosmetic change by Stravinsky to produce a "new" edition for more royalties?
Someone on another list asked a composer why he wrote his bass clarinet part for a particular piece for bass clarinet in C. The composer replied that he intended it for bass clarinet in Bb but the publisher did not transpose it from the score in C.
Back to Petroushka, Stravinsky wanted the high clarinet duet (in the "Peasant with bear" section) played out of tune to underline the cruelty of the episode. Nobody I know plays it intentionally out of tune these days, knowing what the conductor and audience will think and what the critics will write (I remember one critic writing of an old recording "The two clarinets playing in the clarino (sic) register in the passage called The Bear were painfully out of tune".)
It could be said that everyone who plays this high section in tune is ignoring the composer's wishes, in this case perhaps more egregiously than playing a few passages on the other clarinet.
But I digress.......... I wonder as well, maybe he had his reasons.

Simon
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