 The Ethnic Clarinet
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Author: Lenny
Date: 2001-05-31 07:09
Just read a reference to the Kammen folio's in a thread on this site that seemed to say that the B flat version has parts for a second horn. Is this true. I have a C version that has piano accompaniment, is the B flat version different?
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2001-06-01 20:52
I don't have a C version; I was only told this by someone. Does your piano accompaniment version have a lower "brace" in base clef, then? If so, it would be different than the clarinet / tenor sax version which has actual second parts.
I found two websites that sell the Kammen folios, one being Tara and the other being one associated with Hal Leonard Publications; the actual name escapes me. I discovered that there are several C and Bb versions. There's actually separate versions for violin and piano, for example, and for trumpet and clarinet / tenor sax. I am currently putting a little ensemble together to perform "Kolomeike", and was informed by the Hal Leonard - affiliated site that I needed to purchase a book for each instrument, that each C book, in other words, was different. In other words, these books are designed to fit together as an arrangement.
That would be cool, except that judging by the clarinet / tenor book, the Kammen idea of an arrangement is dull. The second part fits nicely with the first, as far as harmony goes, but does nothing to convey a dance feel, and most of these tunes are dances. There isn't even specifically a guitar book in folios 1 and 9, I believe, and I'm going to be using guitar.
In my opinion, it's not worth buying a clarinet / tenor folio just to see some second parts.
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Author: Lenny
Date: 2001-06-02 23:28
Thanks Steve, Yes I have the C version with Bass Clef piano part which is useful for backup horn parts but only as a jumping off point. Is the trumpet book different than the clarinet/Tenor book? Are the harmony parts differen?. Are these actually counter melodies a or just harmonized versions of the meldy line. Sounds useful to me though i wish they were all just in C.
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2001-06-03 08:49
I haven't seen the trumpet book. I can't tell you for sure if the second parts are the same or different from one book to another, in either key. I can tell you that the second parts in the clarinet / tenor books are more countermelody than harmony; they're not just a third / fourth / or fifth from the melody, but are lines in their own right.
The problem for me is that these countermelodies don't add "pulse" to the rhythm (at least not with the person I'm playing with), but rather create a "fugue"-like feel. In other words, they're sort of "concertized". It's just not what I'm looking for. Maybe good for one verse, but then you've got to get away from it and do something else.
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Author: Lenny
Date: 2001-06-03 18:45
I understand what you mean about the getting that dance rhythm happening. I feel like I'm just learning how to get that feeling from listening to records and looking at the harmony in the "complete klezmer" book charts.( just play the chord notes with the right feeling.) But countermelodies would be cool as well. Anything that gives you more diversity .
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2001-12-03 04:22
The not-so-wonderful thing about this klezmer board is that it's unfortunately possible to go back to a post from 6 months ago and still be on the same page, but it does give me the opportunity to make a follow-up.
I stated that the Kammen second parts didn't have a dance-like feel; I was wrong. With practice, we have been able to add the "pulse". As our little band has gotten tighter, we are bringing more of the music's potential out.
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