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 Hi E and F?
Author: Jaysne 
Date:   2009-11-21 22:18

I'm finally learning how to play these notes.

One of the accepted fingerings says you put down the left-hand Ab and Eb at the same time (I'm presuming that you use your pinky for both).

How the heck are you supposed to be able to do that?

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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: OboeLover4Life 
Date:   2009-11-22 00:48

Practice really. You just get used to it.

Then again, I actually don't use that fingering so maybe I shouldn't comment xD.

If music be the food of love, play on. ~William Shakespeare

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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: ohsuzan 
Date:   2009-11-22 01:56

Yeah, practice. It seems like a contortionist's trick when you first start, but it will click in just like any other fingering with enough practice. Practice both scale-wise and leaping approaches to the note and from the note. Find music that makes you use it. It will take a while, but it is very doable.

Susan

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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: Jaysne 
Date:   2009-11-22 02:16

That's what I was afraid of. Yikes!

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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2009-11-22 03:25

Learn how to use the right hand Ab, in many situations, this is extremely helpful!

Howard

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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: jhoyla 
Date:   2009-11-22 09:03

The reason for this fingering is that it lets you transition smoothly from altissimo C#,D to E, and stay in tune :) You can't use RH Eb because you should be fingering RH C for both C# and D with your RH pinkie.

When pressing both keys at the same time, remember that LH Eb needs to go down all the way, whereas the Ab/G# key need only be touched lightly. While not strictly necessary for the altissimo fingering, this double-pinkie fingering is very useful for fast passages with lots of sharps or flats - B major, Db major. You just keep the pinkie pressed down tight and run up and down the scale. Try it!

J.

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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: mjfoboe 
Date:   2009-11-22 13:18

Hi,

I don't want to confuse you; however, there are other alternate fingerings - you can try. I for my self use the Ab key and the third ocatve key. Of course each oboe is different.

Here are links to some fingering charts:

http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/oboe/ob_alt_2.html

http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/oboe/ob_alt_3.html

Mark



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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: Jaysne 
Date:   2009-11-22 20:24

Thanks all, for your help. I'm already becoming less scoff-ful and more accepting. And the notes are starting to come out.

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 Re: Hi E and F?
Author: Dutchy 
Date:   2009-11-23 23:12

I had the exact same question a while back. Yeah, practice is the thing. And I found that not only scales are good, but also if you can find some etudes or other exercises that have the E and F in context, that's good, too, because it forces you to think about what you're playing rather than just rattling off the scale, it forces you to mentally process the fingering.

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