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Author: oboedrew
Date: 2009-08-20 22:31
I'm sure we can all agree that the gouger blade must be sharp, just as the knife must be sharp. The gouge determines the internal structure of the reed, whereas the scrape determines the external structure. A dull blade tearing off cane on either side can ruin a reed.
cjwright wrote:
> I don't know anyone who sands the inside of their cane,
> namely because it changes the gouge and therefore
> would change the acoustical properties, not to mention
> it makes the entire piece of cane uneven (unless you
> can evenly sand .01mm off an entire piece of cane).
A case can be made for sanding the interior, and there are oboists who do it. Their rationale is that sandpaper on the inside (much like a knife on the outside) can be used to compensate for minor flaws in the gouge. I tried this method a few years ago, but I didn't care much for it. In my opinion, better to do the work with the knife, and to select well-gouged cane in the first place.
cjwright wrote:
> Cane that has been gouged so that the surface looks
> rough in the inside tends to be less vibrant while the
> cane that is smoother vibrates more quickly.
I agree that the interior surface of the cane should be smooth, but for different reasons... and that's another topic for another post that I just don't have time for right now... maybe later...
cjwright wrote:
> Therefore, technically speaking, cane that is gouged
> smoother should require less cane scraped off which
> in my opinion makes a reed with a better skeletal
> structure, and is more stable and from what I gather
> from the statement above from Dan Ross, would
> make it last longer.
Certainly a more stable reed lasts longer, because the cane fibers are not broken down as quickly when the embouchure does not have to muscle the reed into submission. But I think you've inadvertently wandered from one case to another. Gouge smoothness and gouge thickness are separate issues. Mark mentioned that Dan thinks a thinner gouge results in a longer lasting reed, not that a smoother interior results in a more stable reed that lasts longer. We already agree (partly) on the latter. But I'm curious about the rationale behind the former.
Cheers,
Drew
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