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Author: crusius
Date: 2019-11-01 23:21
Hi all,
I always wondered whether weaving something like a Vandoren Klassik by hand wouldn't be a rather easy DIY clarinet project, but could not find any instructions anywhere. The best I could find was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4pm6dzjtZ4
I guess one could reverse-engineer the instructions by watching the video enough times, but it doesn't hurt asking: does anybody know of step-by-step instructions to weaving a Klassik-like ligature?
Thanks!
Post Edited (2019-11-01 23:27)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-11-01 23:39
You could also research Vientos Bambu Ligature. Maybe that Argentian dude will share his pattern.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: crusius
Date: 2019-11-07 08:04
Thanks Neil for the pointer - If I understand it correctly, that's a non-adjustable ligature (you can't tighten it by hand easily). I've found a few others like that in my search, but they wouldn't work for me. My suspicion is that the VD Klassik shouldn't be hard to make, if only there were proper instructions around... If I have the time someday I'll try to reverse engineer that video.
Thanks again!
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Author: Neil
Date: 2019-11-08 03:32
Mark,
Years go by a lot quicker these days than they used to.
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Author: richard smith
Date: 2019-11-08 18:56
try Velcro, no weaving, adjustable, and cheap. I described making them in CB some years ago.
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Author: EbClarinet
Date: 2019-11-09 06:02
I wanna know how these kinds of ligatures blow? I saw them in college and they caught on but I have Rovner on all my clarinets and saxophone. The Rovers give me the support and stability that I need.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mbtldsongministry/
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Author: spikey1973
Date: 2023-11-03 00:47
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Hey Richard,
I was looking through this threat because my search for a nice sounding (through all the registers) ligature is still continuing. My current fallback is my free gift metal one, kinda giving the idea what I have been playing with.
Personally I feel a ligature shouldn't have to be expensive, never the less I tried many, cheaper and more expansive once. At one point I fell in love to the nice crisp sound from the (way to expensive) yany sixs ligature. So I decided to treat myself and ordered myself one. When I recieved it, I was throughly disapponted and decided to send it back. So the search continued as I said and I started looking into the Bambu ligatures. Thanks to Paul's mentioning of these, I ended up in this thread, where you made your Velcro comment.. and a little lightbulb turned on!
TL;DR
I have a huge stack of LIDL Parkside double sided velcro cable ties (20x200), totally synthetic ofcourse, so no stretch and desided to try one out. I have been trying it for the lost half hour and as for now I can honoustly say it is the best sounding one I tried so far.
Crips, similarly over the entire register, even the higher notes are easier for me (something I was strugling with).
It is as a little flexible ring now so easy slide on and off and I have a cap that sort of fits. Additional benefit.. nearly free and if it would stretch overtime, I loose it or decide I want a different colour. There are plenty more where this one came from. So thank you so much for this comment!
Detail, the right length determination took a while but that is just a slight bump.
Kind greats
Matthieu
Post Edited (2023-11-03 01:03)
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Author: Feliped80
Date: 2023-11-03 09:05
Hey Neil
Would be very interested in getting the instructions to try this at home
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Author: Julian ibiza
Date: 2023-11-03 16:04
As to the weaving patterns on these ligatures, it will be some traditional pattern going back before clarinets were invented and used for largely decorative purposes.( nautical etc.)
How to do them can no doubt be found in books on " Decorative Rope Work ".
Julian Griffiths
Tel. 34 696 798 853
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Author: Mojo
Date: 2023-11-03 16:35
Neil’s looks like a Turks Head knot variation. I tied a bunch of them when in Boy Scouts.
MojoMP.com
Mojo Mouthpiece Work LLC
MojoMouthpieceWork@yahoo.com
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2023-11-04 19:39
I admit to not knowing exactly where the voice of reason ends, and the cantankerous old man begins. So apologies in advance.
With that said....why (knit your own ligature)?!
And to answer my own question, maybe you enjoy crafting--which if the case, is fine by me.
But apart from that, this $4 ligature https://store.weinermusic.com/products/standard-bb-clarinet-ligature is going to, IMHO, take 99.5% of clarinet players 99.5% of the way to being the best version of their clarinet selves.
As if we didn't debate this stupid reed strap enough here, now we're going to open's "Pandora's box" with additional factors like the materials used to create the device, and the pattern of knitting most suited to optimal play.
"Well, when playing Weber's 2nd, you'll never find me dead playing with a ligature with less than 70% rayon and 20% cotton, and at least 7.2% European imported spandex woven together in a knit one purl three pattern. It would be madness to approach the piece with anything less."
Sigh.
Disclaimer: I play Vandoren ligature, but its double threaded design facilitates quick reed changes, and this alone is what attracts me to it.
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2023-11-04 22:22
It would be hilarious fun if we founded a whole new ligature-knitting movement.
Before long it would be considered a branch of mindfulness and essential to clarinetist wellbeing.
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