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 reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: Chrissy 
Date:   2010-02-25 15:51

I have heard recently that Vandoran M30 mouthpieces are not designed for V12 reeds.. specifically size 4 because the facing on the M30 is short and the V12 reeds are longer. Has anyone tried Gonzalez reeds? If so, do they burn out quickly? What other reeds do you recommend?

Thanks

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: mrn 
Date:   2010-02-25 16:11

That's not right. The M30 is a long facing mouthpiece, and the Vandoren people say they will work with V12's in strengths 3.5-4.0.

http://www.vandoren.fr/en/mentonniere.html



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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: vin 
Date:   2010-02-25 16:17

They were designed with regular blue box Vandoren reeds in mind- however, if V-12s work for you, play them and don't worry about it.

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: OmarHo 
Date:   2010-02-25 16:53

I have been using my M30 as my main mouthpiece lately since my M13Lyre warped, so I continued to use Vandoren Blue Box 3.5 that I had previously been using. I really like the feel of them, even more so than V12 reeds.

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2010-02-25 17:47

Stay with Vandoren reeds. I've measured and played hundreds of these reeds and I use them myself.

If your M30 MP (mouthpiece) doesn't play well with their reeds perhaps the MP needs refacing.

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: Curinfinwe 
Date:   2010-02-25 18:53

I used to use 3.5 V12s with my M30, but I swtiched to Rico Reserve 3.5 and then Rico Reserve Classic 3.5+ a few months ago and I find they work very well.

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: cxgreen48 
Date:   2010-02-25 19:11

The M30 has a short facing? What?? It definitely has a long facing, if not a very long facing.
I have had success with both Vandoren V12 and Traditional reeds on my M30 though.
I find my Gonzalez FOFs have the longest life-span compared to any of my other reeds.



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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: OmarHo 
Date:   2010-02-25 22:10

Vin,
You said "They were designed with regular blue box Vandoren reeds in mind"

May I ask where you got this information from?

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: vin 
Date:   2010-02-25 23:52

David Gould, who runs the Vandoren Artist Studio in NY, told me.

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: Mike Clarinet 
Date:   2010-02-26 07:13

My local woodwind specialist advised me that the M30 (which I use) is "medium-long". I used V12 size 3 or 3.5 for a time, then switched to Rico Grand Concert evolution select 3 or 3.5, as the Vandorens were too inconsistent for me. However, when I got a good Vandoren, it worked really well.

In summary - V12's work on M30 Mpc.
I can't answer your Gonzalez question, I haven't tried them.
I recommend Rico Grand Concert evolution select, based on personal experience.

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: kdk 
Date:   2010-02-26 22:16

I'm not sure from your post what dimension whoever told you this means. If he/she is saying the length of the curve is short, Vandoren's website shows that it indeed has the longest curve they use on their mouthpieces. Check http://www.vandoren.fr/en/mentonniere.html for a chart of their entire traditional line and http://www.vandoren.fr/en/clarinetbb.html for their Series 13 models. They recommend V12 (or 56 Rue Lepic) #3-1/2 - 4.

Karl

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: Grandpa 
Date:   2010-02-26 22:48

Would the M30 be good for a beginner?

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2010-02-26 23:27

I think many of the instructore here recommend the 5RV as a good Vandoren for beginners. Also something to consider would be the Redwine Mezzo, the Hite Premiere and the Fobes Debut. All of these are lower priced, and offer high cost/value ratrions for a person just starting out.

Mouthpieces are very individual, and it would be good to consult the student's teacher before buying one.

Jeff

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: OmarHo 
Date:   2010-02-27 02:58

I'm not sure the M30 mouthpiece would be good for beginners, if not controlled properly, it can sound very dull and spread out. I would recommend a B40 or B40 Lyre instead.

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: ricardo pereira 
Date:   2010-02-27 09:19

all vandoren long facing vandoren mpc works fine whith v12 reed ex m30 m15 b40 lyre!
and yes m30 ist recomended to beginners because its a easy blow mouthpiece whith a medium open facing m30 5rv 5rv lyre and m15 are the best to beginners not b40 or b40 lyre

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 Re: reeds and M30 mouthpiece
Author: Grandpa 
Date:   2010-02-27 11:35

Thanks Jeff for your mouthpiece recommendations. I am now thinking of a Fobes "DEBUT" and Rico Royal 2 reeds. I already bought a B45 and have now discovered that yes it is very popular, but not suitable for a beginner. Not a loss though since I now have three clarinets and all need a new mouthpiece.

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