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Author: S Murray
Date: 2007-06-22 17:27
Attachment: Stamitz Cl. Concerto.pdf (437k)
I have attached a pdf of page one of a clarinet part of a Carl(?) Stamitz concerto for Clarinet and Orchestra in Eb. I'm hoping someone can identify it. (Stamitz wrote more than one, and there was more than one Stamitz.) I'd like to order a score and recording so I can do an arrangement for a client. Thanks!
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2007-06-22 18:59
Carl Stamitz wrote three Clarinet Concerti that I am familiar with, one each in F, Bb and Eb. You can find clarinet with piano reductions for them at http://www.vcisinc.com/clarinetmusicpiano.htm
According to that page, that concerto was first published in 1953. Gary van Cott might be able to provide more info and a source for you directly.
Jeff
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2007-06-22 19:27
My CD collection, which is supposed to be complete, has two Carl Stamitz Eb concertos. #11 is the "Darmstadt" and the second is #6 and might have been written by Johann Joseph Beer. You have #6.
The set of CDs has 4 clarinet concertos (two in Bb major and two in Eb major), one concerto for basset horn in Bb major and two duets with orchestra, one for 2 clarinets, one for clarinet and bassoon. Both of the duets are in Bb major.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
Post Edited (2007-06-22 19:37)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-06-22 19:45
bill28099 wrote:
> My CD collection, which is supposed to be complete, has two
> Carl Stamitz Eb concertos. #11 is the "Darmstadt" and the
> second is #6 and might have been written by Johann Joseph Beer.
> You have #6.
Carl Stamitz Concerto #7 is also in Eb major...GBK
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2007-06-22 20:01
I stand corrected the second Eb concerto #11 on my set of discs is not the "Darmstadt", from a Sabine Meyer disc the Darmstadt is shown as #7. So I guess that 2 maybe 3 Eb concertos are attributed to Karl Stamitz and my set is not complete. I knew I had all of them, just not all with Karl Schlechta.
The Concerto #1 in F major is for C clarinet.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
Post Edited (2007-06-22 20:09)
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2007-06-22 21:40
The number of Clarinet Concertos attributed to Carl Stamitz (the son) is in double digits, including his two double concertos (clarinet and bassoon; and clarinet and violin, also in an edition for 2 clarinets). Of these, as GBK notes, three are in Eb. Johann Stamitz (the father) wrote only one.
Finding the sheet music for yours shouldn't be too difficult. The bottom of the page you uploaded indicates Schirmer as the the publisher and they have only published one Stamitz Eb Clarinet concerto so, if you tell the music store you want the Stamitz Clarinet Concerto in Eb published by Schirmer (edited by Christmann), you should get the right one. It's in print and I find it at both SheetMusicPlus ($12.95) and Luyben ($11.95 but that price is possibly out of date).
SheetMusicPlus lists the concerto as No. 6. I don't know where they get the number. It's not shown anywhere on the Schirmer edition, which identifies it only as "Concerto in Eb." In the preface inside, it is actually identified as No. 11. To complicate matters, though, there are two different numbering systems for Carl's clarinet concertos. Sabine Meyer (EMI), Kalman Berkes (Naxos), and Eduard Brunner (Tudor) all show (the same) No. 11 in Eb in their sets -- but it isn't this one. The movement titles are wrong. For the Schirmer Eb, the movement titles are: I Allegro, II Siciliano, III Rondo. Neither Meyer nor Berkes have apparently recorded that one. Brunner has... it's listed as No. 5. I think his are out-of-print but you might find a copy at Amazon. Otherwise, scaring up a recording could prove a challenge. There are other recordings of the Stamitz concerti but they're hard to find.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-06-22 23:17
S Murray -
I own a copy of the Stamitz Eb Concerto (edited by Arthur Christmann/published by Schirmer) which you have referenced in your post.
Christmann writes in the preface of this edition:
"... This edition is based upon a set of manuscript parts placed at the editor's disposal by the Austrian National Library in Vienna. They were copied at the Hofkapelle library at Berlin and Potsdam. No date is given..."
...GBK
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Author: John25
Date: 2007-06-23 15:48
Details of all Carl Stamitz's works for clarinet (with incipits) are given in two sources:
(i) "Die Klarinette als Soloinstrument in der Musik der Mannheimer Schule" by Dr. H. Boese (Dresden, 1940)
(ii) John Newhill's article - "The Contribution of the Mannheim School to Clarinet Literature" - in "The Music Review", May 1979.
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