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 Help with recordings!
Author: kporter24 
Date:   2007-02-28 16:30

I'm looking to increase the number of clarinet recordings in my library. I'd like to have Weber's concertos and concertino, Copland's concerto, and Debussey, among others. Anyone have some real "gems" that you can suggest?

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: Escsrc 
Date:   2007-02-28 16:46

Theres a CD with Charles Neidich doing Weber's Concertino, both Concertos, and the Rossini variations:

http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Clarinet-Concertos-Charles-Neidich/dp/B000001GH6/sr=8-3/qid=1172684757/ref=sr_1_3/103-2587003-7943057?ie=UTF8&s=music

a real winner, in my opinion.

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: bahamutofskycon 
Date:   2007-02-28 21:21

As you'll see below, I'm a big fan of David Shifrin and Paul Meyer. Of course there are many recordings of these pieces by many wonderful players - these are some of my favorites though.

David Shifrin playing Mozart on basset clarinet:
http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Clarinet-Concerto-Quintet/dp/B0000006VG/sr=1-3/qid=1172700727/ref=sr_1_3/103-5052590-6246203?ie=UTF8&s=music

Shifrin playing Brahms sonatas and Schumann Fantasy Pieces
http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Clarinet-Sonata-Schumann-Fantasiest%C3%BCcke/dp/B0000006VL/sr=1-2/qid=1172700805/ref=sr_1_2/103-5052590-6246203?ie=UTF8&s=music

Paul Meyer "French Clarinet Art Music," cl and piano. Includes Debussy Premier Rhapsody
http://www.amazon.com/French-Clarinet-Art-Paul-Meyer/dp/B0000034YI/sr=1-1/qid=1172700861/ref=sr_1_1/103-5052590-6246203?ie=UTF8&s=music

Walter Boeykens playing Weber 1, 2 and Concertino. Then Paul Meyer playing the Grand Duo Concertante. I'm particularly fond of this Grand Duo performance.
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Clarinet-Concertos-Concertante-Concertino/dp/B00005OBRG/sr=1-6/qid=1172700963/ref=sr_1_6/103-5052590-6246203?ie=UTF8&s=music

Hope I did those links correctly.

Steve

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2007-03-01 03:22

Weber: Either David Shifrin or Jon Manasse

Copland: There's an EMI recording I think with Shifrin, and I can't find my copy of it right now AND it's out of print...It's some kind of "American Classics" CD...fabulous! There's also a Manasse recording of this too and it's excellent.

Debussy: A recording by Franklin Cohen with the Cleveland Orchestra which features La Mer (so you might not find it under "Premiere Rhapsody" in a record shop)

I'll second all of the Shifrin recordings Steve mentions above!

Also the Brahms and Mozart clarinet quintets performed by Shifrin with the Emerson string quartet!!!

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: robertgh 
Date:   2007-03-01 04:13

I would give an enthusiastic second to the two David Shifrin recordings mentioned above, in particular his elegant readings of the Brahms sonatas.

The Gervase de Peyer recording of French repertoire contains a reading of the Poulenc sonata that is both witty and haunting, going beyond the mere flash technique (how fast can YOU play this) of some other recordings. http://www.amazon.com/French-Music-Clarinet-Piano-Gervase/dp/B000000AFR/sr=1-12/qid=1172722825/ref=sr_1_12/102-0010460-6836967?ie=UTF8&s=music

I'd also recommend checking out the many recordings made by Thea King. In addition to covering an interesting range of repertoire, they reveal an artist whose sound and musicianship have a consistent quality that tempts one to use the term definitive. A good representative set would be the two-disk survey of English works http://www.amazon.com/English-Music-Clarinet-Thea-King/dp/B000002ZES/sr=1-20/qid=1172722993/ref=sr_1_20/102-0010460-6836967?ie=UTF8&s=music

Finally, you might check out a recording of American repertoire by Todd Plamer. The Bernstein and Copland sonatas get decent readings here, but for me the real find is the set of Samuel Barber's Hermit Songs. Palmer interprets these short vocal pieces— some lyric, some declamatory and dramatic—with a facility that makes you forget they weren't composed to show off the expressive range of the clarinet. Very cool stuff! Download it from iTunes for a quick fix or get the CD at http://www.amazon.com/Hermit-Songs-Todd-Palmer/dp/B000001SFH/sr=1-6/qid=1172725008/ref=sr_1_6/102-0010460-6836967?ie=UTF8&s=music



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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: blue street 
Date:   2007-03-01 06:41

Carl Maria von Weber: Clarinet Concertos (BIS-SACD-1523)
Martin Frost, clarinet and Tapiola Sinfonietta conducted by Jean-Jacques Katorow. This recording was released in October 2006 on a label called BIS Records AB. It's a hybrid disc playable on both cd and sacd players.
www.bis.se



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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: bufclar 
Date:   2007-03-01 12:54

The David Shifrin Copland recording with Gerard Schwartz and the New York Chamber Symphony is a nice one. That recording also has a beautiful recording of Quiet City but it is out of print.

I really like the Andrew Mariner Recording of the Webers with Academy of St. Martin in the Feilds and his dad conducting.

Brahms sonatas with Harold Wright and Peter Serkin is lovely on Boston Records.

Mozarts that I have enjoyed are the Marcellus recording, the Jack Brymer, Tony Pay, David Shifrin.

I also like the recording of the Debussy with Frank Cohen with Boulez conducting. It is a really beautiful recording.

Stanley Drucker made an incredible recording of the Bartok Contrasts with Boby Mann of the Julliard Quartet if you can find it.

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: kev182 
Date:   2007-03-01 14:48

My absolute favorite recording of all time is David Shifrin & the Emerson quintet playing Mozart and Brahms. The Brahms is just unbelievable.

I really like Shifrin's Copland Concerto recording.

Sabine Meyer's Premiere Rhapsody is amazing as well.



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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: Simon Aldrich 
Date:   2007-03-01 15:25

A beautiful version of the Debussy Premiere Rhapsodie is a recent recording by David Shifrin and Andre Watts.
It is on a 3-cd set of the complete chamber music of Debussy by the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center.

Shifrin's Copland Concerto and Mozart Concerto are still my favourites.

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Simon Aldrich

Clarinet Faculty - McGill University
Principal Clarinet - Orchestre Metropolitain de Montreal
Principal Clarinet - Orchestre de l'Opera de Montreal
Clarinet - Nouvel Ensemble Moderne
Buffet-Crampon Artist/Clinician

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: Sylvain 
Date:   2007-03-01 15:41

Weber: Carbonare recent recording and Jon Manasse. Paul Meyer has an old one that is showing off his technical abilities, very impressive, but I think I like Carbonare and Manasse better.

Copland: I recommend Benny Goodman's CD called "Collector's Edition" on cbs masterworks. It has a lot of music that he commissioned and it is all first rate playing. A must have.

Carbonare's recording on Harmonia Mundi of Mozart and Brahms quintet is my favorite.

Paul Meyer and Gerard Causse recording of the Bruch eight pieces and concerto for viola and orchestra is a gem.

Walter Boeykens ensemble playing quartet for the end of time by Messian.

Marcellus playing Mozart clarinet concerto (even though it is not up to today's performance standard of this piece)
Sabine Meyer playing it on Basset clarinet.

--
Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: dgclarinet 
Date:   2007-03-01 17:09

I'd like to put in a plug for a recording of the Debussy by Guy Dangain, on an old EMI recording conducted by Jean Martinon. This is by far my favorite of this piece.

My favorite Copland is, also by far, the Benny Goodman. Nobody seems to get this piece like Benny got it. I just think that Copland wrote it for Benny, knowing what he'd sound good doing...and to me he hits the nail right on the head.

The Weber...lots of good recordings...the Carbonare, as mentioned above, is great. One of my first clarinet LP's was Gervase de Peyer playing those concertos...probably would not be my favorite today, but holds a lot of memories for me.

The Mozart....two for me say a lot...Marcellus and Reginald Kell with the Zimbler Sinfonietta (I think it's available on the American Decca recordings set that just came out). Lots of other great recordings, but these two are my favorites.

Brahms (sonatas, trio and quintet)...Reginald Kell in all these for me. The Brahms quinet with the Busch quartet and the trio with Frank Miller are two of my favorite recordings of anything. The sonatas with Horszowski are almost on that level for me. If you want a more modern sound, a favorite of mine are the Carbonare recordings of these pieces.



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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: claritoot26 
Date:   2007-03-01 19:21

I'll second Andrew Marriner's recordings of the Weber Concertos and Concertino. I also like Sabine Meyer's recording of the Debussy Rhapsodie. Shifrin does a good Copland Concerto.

Lori

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: energia eolica 
Date:   2007-03-01 20:11

Weber:

Alessandro Carbonare's recording of the two concerti and the Concertino. I also think the Manasse set is very good and contains the Quintet and some others that are nice.

Copland:

I haven't found a "great" recording yet, but I'd say the Paul Meyer or David Shifrin are my favorites. I'm not a big fan of Meyer's playing, but he comes off very well here.

Debussy:

I haven't yet found recording I consider complete. Does anyone know if Philippe Cuper has recorded this?

Mozart/Brahms Quintets:

There are actually a number of fine recordings of these, packaged as one disk. Among notables are Shifrin/Emerson, Carbonare, and Mark Nuccio, but I have come to prefer a new disk by Hakan Rosengren and the Chiara Quartet, particularly for the Brahms. I would say the Carbonare recording, but I feel the strings are far better on the Rosengren. You can't go wrong with any of these.

Messiaen Quartet for the End of Time:

Again, a number of good ones, but I prefer the Joaquin Valdepenas recording with Amici. I haven't heard the Antares Quartet recording, but their live rendition could have easily stood up with the best of them.

Brahms Sonatas/Trio:

Most CDs don't package the sonatas and trio together, but the recordings with Martin Frost are the best of all the pieces I've yet heard, in my opinion.

Trios with Viola, i.e. Mozart and Bruch:

The Boston Records recording with Montenaro does not have the complete Bruch, but the pieces that it does have, combined with the Mozart Trio, are extraordinary.

Other French stuff:

The Boston Records recording by Ricardo Morales , "French Portraits," has a number of fine renditions of pieces that aren't always the main feature on some disks.

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: nik 
Date:   2007-03-02 00:41

grab a copy of Martin Frost's recording of the Copland. it's smooth with a capital SMOO.

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2007-03-02 05:03

I like the Carbonare CD with Mozart and Brahms quintets. Also the duo CD of Paul Meyer with piano playing French pieces is great! I especially like his playing because of his rhythm. For the Messiaen quartet I like Walter Boeykens overall, though Wolfgang Meyer's version, at least the clarinet playing, is pretty amazing technically.

I'm assuming you are interested in clarinet recordings, but are you only interested in classical recordings?

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: energia eolica 
Date:   2007-03-02 05:16

I don't want to start something, but I don't think I've ever heard someone praise a CD based on someone's "rhythm."

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2007-03-02 05:59

What is it that you didn't want to start, but started anyway? If you meant some sort of arguement, here is my way to avoid it - "I don't think I've ever heard...." - there is always a first time!  :)

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: jane84 
Date:   2007-03-02 09:11

Hans Chr. Bræin's recording of the Brahms sonatas/trio/quintet are the best ones I've heard

-jane

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2007-03-02 12:55

I can't claim complete critical onjectivity about Antony Pay, but I was a big fan of his recordings before I met him. Some of my favorites:

Weber, concertos 1 and 2 and Op. 26 Concertino, and Crusell, concertos 1, 2 and 3, all with Antony Pay and the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment (2 CD set, Veritas 7243 5 61585 2 8).

Mozart clarinet concerto with Antony Pay; Christopher Hogwood conducts The Academy of Ancient Music (L'Oiseau-Lyre 414 339-2). The recording also includes a fine recording of the oboe concerto, with Michel Piguet.

Mozart's "Gran Partita" with Antony Pay and soloists of The Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields (Philips 412 726-2)

I enjoy listening to different types of music and different interpretations of the same music--Jack Brymer's recording of the Mozart concerto, which I first owned (and have kept) as an LP, is still one of my favorites.

Gorgeous playing: "Brahms Clarinet Sonatas" (BBC-Music Vol. III, No. 2) by Jonathan Cohler with pianists Judith Gordon and Randall Hodgkinson.

For sheer virtuosity, listen to the Robert Springs recordings of short, showy pieces, too. I have "Dragon's Tongue" (Summit DCD 166) and "Tarantelle" (Summit DCD 238). Most of those pieces are arrangements and the music varies in quality--yes, there's a certain cheesiness factor in arranging Rimsky's "Flight of the Bumblebee" or Bazzini's "Ronde des Lutins" for clarinet--but they're loads of fun to listen to. Springs plays the bejabbers out of pieces like those and he's an education in what can be done with the tongue (and probably voodoo...).

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.

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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: Gary Foss 
Date:   2007-03-02 16:47

Mark Nuccios Mozart and Brahms quintet(opening night), both recorded live, although You won't know it until the applause at the end. Wow



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 Re: Help with recordings!
Author: energia eolica 
Date:   2007-03-03 03:13

Well, clarnibass, you're right about the intent, I guess.

As for your response, fair enough!

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