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Author: Neal Raskin
Date: 2007-02-24 02:59
In May, I will be traveling to Norway with my college Band. We are touring for 17 days. I am playing Bb, and Eb clarinet. Traveling with two different cases is kind of a pain since i have to bring both carry-on. I will also have my laptop computer with me and having three things is a real hassle. Which leads to my question:
Is there a case/gig pack/computer case that can hold a clarinet and a computer? even better if it could hold an Eb, Bb, and a laptop. Any suggestions? or what have you done before during travel?
Thanks much,
Neal
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2007-02-24 03:14
Bam Xlight for the Bb and then you could fit the Eefer case and the laptop in a backpack!
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-02-24 05:09
There was a thread about the bam cases where you could actually fit an Eb clarinet in with the Bb case by removing the bell and barrel. Do a search.
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: D
Date: 2007-02-24 13:22
You could easily make a small case for the two clarinets using a metal/strong box, upholstery foam and stretchy velvet. I found the sort of box that you would use for electric power tools good because it has strong hinges. Any home DIY/tool shop would be a good place to start. If you work out the most space economical layout for your clarinets you could end up with something very pleasingly sized.
Alternatively, my brother found a case for his laptop which was a ruck sack with a protective compartment. The rest of the bag had enough room for two clarinets if the cases were sensible and compact.
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Author: voodoosausage
Date: 2007-02-24 13:48
I have a bam double case, and I've definitely carried my laptop in it, in addition to my Bb and my A. If you're only going to use your Bb, you could probably do something with putting the Eb in place of the A, and just add some cushion-y things to fill up the extra space.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-02-24 14:49
I have also used the Bam double case with my laptop in the top accessory compartment. I did add a layer of foam over the laptop for those occasional bumps and bruises and put the case inside a roll on "under the seat carryon bag." Samsonite makes a new small wheeled carryon that fits perfectly under the airline seat and your babies are never far away. I like the little Samsonite bag because I can also carry my music and my orchestra clothes after I get to the location. This works really well for touring because we also travel in buses after we get to our main location.
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Author: Neal Raskin
Date: 2007-02-24 17:38
Thanks, I found a couple of cases that hold a Bb/A/Eb or a Bb/Eb. And they get pretty pricey. Since I don't own the Eb or the A, it might be a waste of money. I am not sure if the next clarinet I purchase will be an A or an Eb. So buying a case for something I don't own may not be a good idea. anymore suggestions on how to make a case?
Neal
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Author: mnorswor
Date: 2007-02-24 18:39
I do a lot of travelling with my clarinets and laptop, about 20 weeks a year. This is what I use:
http://www.travelpro.com/wallstreetvip.html
Look at the expandable deluxe rolling computer brief. Works great for me. I ahve a Buffet pochette case and it fits that, several reed cases, pencils pens, cards, sheet music and a laptop all in one bag. Best thing is, you can carry it or roll it.
Hope it helps!!
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Author: Neal Raskin
Date: 2007-02-24 20:30
I will be traveling to: Oslo, Lillehammer, Hamar,Kristiansand, Stavanger, Bergen, and Voss. My band will be in Norway for 15 days performing concerts in these cities. I am in the Concordia College Band from Moorhead, Minnesota. http://www.cord.edu/dept/music/ensemble/band.html
Neal
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Author: D
Date: 2007-02-24 20:39
Making a case
Get a shell - as I said above a power tool box worked well for me.
Get foam to fill the inside - lid and base. Upholstery foam was easiest for me. I used several layers, as this worked out cheaper here than one thick block.
Wrap the clarinet in clingfilm/saranwrap/stretch'n'seal while you are working just in case.
Decide where each instrument part is going, draw round them on the foam in biro and cut out the inlays with a craft knife of some sort. Cut away from yourself - don't let the kids help if there are any in your house, be careful where you put the knife down etc. I've stabbed myself on scalpels a few times at work and trust me - blood is hard to get out.
When you have all the cutouts, put the foam in the case. Depending on how tight the fit you might want to put a little glue in the bottom of the case. Don't put it round the sides.
Put a small amount of glue in the bottom of each cut out. Put the stretchy velvet or other stretchy material over the whole thing and then starting from the insert in the middle push the parts of clarinet in to make the fabric fit. You will probably need at least four times the size of the foam to get enough fabric - depends how many cutouts you need. Be generous on the material, you can use the off cuts to make some cheap Christmas presents.
When you are satisfied, pull the edges of the foam forward from the edge of the box. Dribble a little glue down into the crack and then poke the material over the edge with a ruler or knitting needle.
An addition I would recommend for extra piece of mind - but does depend on the layout of the case to a certain extent and how deep the lid is, is a safety board.
Put some wide velcro in the bottom of the case before you put the foam in with long enough tape at each end to come a good distance clear of the foam.
Make a board which fills the flat surface of the case from something like thick drawing card and a thiner layer of dense foam. Cover this in stretchy fabric. This board then goes over the top of the instruments when in situ and is fastened with the velcro. It is just piece of mind to stop anything escaping when you open the case. Also it allows you to put a few flat things, like music in the top of the case, without worrying that staples might scratch the instrument.
I made a case like this for my recorders - I have 6, different sizes in one box - they don't make them for this many recorders and I was always leaving different ones at peoples houses.
As long as you get a good sturdy box and take your time there is no reason why this should last as long as a bought one.
If you bought a box with a deep lid you could probably get your laptop in the top too with a bit of jiggling.
Send us pictures if you do make one!
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Author: Wes
Date: 2007-03-01 04:57
Hi Neal!
There was a double Bb/Eb case made by a company that also sells Gigliotti clarinets, including a rosewood Eb for about $900. The double case only cost $99. Maybe an internet search would find it.
Yes, I played in the Moorhead High Band and Orchestra, graduating in 1946.
Good Luck!
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-03-01 07:51
Wes wrote:
> There was a double Bb/Eb case made by a company that also sells
> Gigliotti clarinets, including a rosewood Eb for about $900.
> The double case only cost $99. Maybe an internet search would
> find it.
You mean this one?
(No affiliations whatsoever...)
--
Ben
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Author: TheButler
Date: 2007-03-01 09:00
Has anybody here actually used this Gigliotti double case? I'm interested in a Bb/Eb case as well, but that link only shows a bad quality picture of the outside of the case.
Cheers!
Koen
Post Edited (2007-03-01 09:00)
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Author: Veldeb
Date: 2007-03-01 17:13
I sent the purveyor a note asking the weight and possibly an interior pic. If I get a reply I will post.
Blake
www.dcdd.org
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2007-03-01 20:42
For the case construction technique, I would add only that you should cut a notch running from the end of each series of joints, with the small joints (mouthpiece, barrels, bell) in a line in the case foam.
Then, when you are applying the covering, you can stuff your excess material down in that notch, thereby cleaning up the end result.
This is standard practice in every horn case that I've ever owned, even though it may not be all that noticeable at first. Look at any old "plywood cutout" style case and you will see what I mean.
leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
info@sotsdo.com
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Author: D
Date: 2007-03-01 21:32
That's why I used the stretchy stuff, very forgiving!
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Author: TheButler
Date: 2007-03-10 23:43
This MTS case looks pretty good to me:
http://www.wwbw.com/Replacement-Cases-Combo-Case-for-Bb-and-Eb-Clarinets-i79714.music
I'd want to see some (or at least one) better picture of it though because I can't tell how and where the eefer's pieces are placed. The folks at Woodwind didn't reply to my e-mail with this question.. instead they started spamming me after I registered
Anyway, has anybody actually seen, used, or owned a case like this one?
Cheers!
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Author: bawa
Date: 2007-03-11 16:56
Neal,
I bought a rucksack for my daughter which has two main compartments. There is a protective nearest the straps for a laptop and there is a generous main one with pockets which easily takes in her clarinet case (or double case home-made as above). There are still pockets and flaps on the outside for papers, pens etc. etc. The whole thing is sturdy and compact.
I paid about 24 euros for it in a big sports chain here. If you go to a place that do a lot of rucksacks (for students or others), I am sure will find something that takes the three things.
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Author: TheButler
Date: 2007-03-29 07:18
Sorry for the bump, but how can it be that no-one at 1stopclarinet and wwbw replies to my mails in which I asked for more information about these cases? Is this behaviour normal for (American ?) webshops? Never experienced this before.
Since these seem to be the only two options on the internet, it's a pitty that the pictures of both cases are unclear. Does nobody at this board own a case like this?
Post Edited (2007-03-29 08:02)
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Author: TheButler
Date: 2007-03-29 10:54
That's a very nice case indeed, saw your post in similar older topics as well. However there's no reason for me to buy an A clarinet within the near future... (or carry two Bb's around) would you still recommend this case if I would use it only for Bb and Eb? Isn't it a bit bulky then?
Can I use the space of the A clarinet to store accesoires (like on some of your pictures) or will they go through the entire case once it's being transported?
Cheers, Koen
Post Edited (2007-03-29 11:00)
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Author: OpusII
Date: 2007-03-29 11:13
It looks like a double case (almost the same dimensions) and you can also carry it as a backpack. The accessories that you leave in one of the instrument spaces will not leave their space, but will shuffle around in the space. If you would like to see the case, I'm in Venlo this Saturday (Dutch Championship for Concert Band).
Possibly I'm going to the Nerv convention in April.. but that’s not definitive at the moment.
Hanssen muziekcentrale in Kerkrade sells the case.
Eddy
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Author: TheButler
Date: 2007-03-29 11:26
Thanks for the details! Sounds very good.
Good luck with the 'Landskampioenschappen'
I'll be at the Nerv convention too, so maybe see you there!
- Koen
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Author: LonDear
Date: 2007-03-31 19:36
Attachment: ClarinetCase3.jpg (343k)
This thread inspired me to adapt the attached case. Now I can leave gigs at the same time as the rest of the wind players.
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-03-31 23:18
LOL that's so awesome! "Now I can leave gigs at the same time as the rest of the wind players."
that made me laugh. good stuff
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2007-04-01 02:50
LonDear: That's a really nifty setup for carrying several clarinets plus all kinds of accessories . . . but . . . what sort of case did you use? It doesn't appear long enough for a key board or wide enough for a guitar; maybe a banjo case? Eu
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Author: LonDear
Date: 2007-04-01 04:25
Eu,
I've used this rig twice today and it really rocks!
Of course I take the clarinets apart to allow the joints and corks to breath after work.
I did several searches on cases, and it turns out that double rifle cases are the same depth as a double (Bb/A) case (4.5"). The thing has wheels - way cool. Both groups that I played with today were amazed with how fast I did my intro and outro. ( I was too )
Cheers,
Lon
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