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 I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: sinkdraiN 
Date:   2004-10-28 12:17

My brother has a Vandoren M13. I had the opportunity to try it today. Vandoren changed the M13 differently than the guy who designed it (I forget who designed the M13) wanted. So this guy sold a bunch of "his M13s" to various players- one of which was my brothers lesson teacher way back. Anyway this piece is so much fun to play. It has a beautiful ring to it.

WHERE CAN I GET ONE?!?!?

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: FrankM 
Date:   2004-10-28 12:49

I got one from a local dealer. I bought it because of an ad that said it was like the old Chedville mouthpieces I always hear about, and I wanted to try it out. It is extremely closed...I had a hard time putting air through it, but I usually play a more open mouthpiece, so what do I know! Anyway, I'm sure you can obtain one from one of the big mail order places if you can't find one locally.

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: sinkdraiN 
Date:   2004-10-28 12:59

Yes, Frankm. I had a similar experience. My Morgan RM15 lets me put a lot more air into the instrument and offers more flexibilty. However, this M13 "version" had a pleasing ring and the most consistant tone through the whole range. It was so consistent that I would probably feel restricted in a swing band but very comfortable in an orchestra setting.

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-10-28 17:08

Hate to burst your bubble, but that COULD have been simply THAT M13. And consequently, any other M13's that you try out may not feel the same (read: as good) as THAT one. Since pretty much EVERY mouthpiece is a unique character.

Also, I believe the M was for Marcellus.

I particularly like the M15 (never really liked the M13). May as well give THOSE a shot too while you're at it.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: FrankM 
Date:   2004-10-28 17:21

I tried 5 of them...please reinflate my bubble

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-10-28 17:44

Frank,

Whenever you're ready, try a Greg Smith chedeville style. A REAL MAN'S clarinet mouthpiece (which could be considered an oxymoron to some people . . .)

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: FrankM 
Date:   2004-10-28 18:02

I'm not sure I qualify for one of those , but be that as it may, I tried the m13 basically because according to the stats, it was quite closed, and therefore different from my usual mouthpiece, and it was sort of an experiment. I suppose I also fell for the advertising hype which compared it to the old chedville mouthpieces. I have heard from friends the M15 is quite good, but as of yet have not tried one........I'm in the middle of a search for the cosmic bass clarinet mouthpiece right now.

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-10-28 18:11

FYI,

There are a LOT of chedeville cloned mouthpieces. There were pretty much two mouthpiece "greats" that were cloned, Kaspar and Chedeville. So you'll see a lot of that in your search (just so you know)

Kaspar Mouthpieces

Chedeville Mouthpieces - Some EXCELLENT info on chedeville mouthpieces, as well as a list of some chedeville clones that you may want to look into! Thanks to a member of our board here, Terry Sterkel.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2004-10-28 18:36

No, the M was/is for Montanaro who teaches at Curtis.



http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1998/06/000667.txt


http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1999/05/000730.txt



I was told long before the Vandoren product came out that he was working on a mouthpiece for them.


Not sure of exact details, etc and couldn't find any info on the web about it. I haven't asked Don about it.



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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-10-28 18:52

There we go! Thanks Dave!

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: Shawn 
Date:   2004-10-28 19:06

Dave is correct about the M standing for Montanaro. That bit of factual information can be found in the vandoren magazine no.2, which is downloadable at their website. Very interesting article.

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2004-10-28 19:10

http://www.vandoren.com/VANDOmag2US.pdf

good article!



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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: ned 
Date:   2004-10-29 05:36

Dear Mr or Ms sinkdraiN,

Quite an amazing non de plume you have and I am similarly amazed at the names of some our other correspondents to this board.

Er....I play Vandoren too......a JB5.....just to stay on topic.

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: sinkdraiN 
Date:   2004-10-29 12:50

Yes, Montanaro! That was the name my brother said made his piece. His lesson Teacher played in an orchestra next to Montanaro and he had him try it. His teacher liked it so much he bought 5 from Montanaro to give to his students. Montanaro warned him not to buy the normal M13 because Vandoren altered his design. This M13 has the initials RH carved in the side. I wonder who that is?

It plays with great clarity and has a very pleasant ring or "pong" to it.

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2004-10-29 13:11

His teacher would most probably be Ron Reuben.

Ron's constantly messing with mouthpieces. (btw - one of his students was the guy who put the mouthpiece in an oven to "help finish" it and ended up melting the MP instead)


Sometimes in Orchestra instead of the usual "ring" I get a "pong" instead. The conductor gives me a glare and we continue along..........  ;)



Post Edited (2004-10-29 13:13)

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 Re: I just played an AMAZING mp
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2004-10-29 13:18

RH typically stands for Richard Hawkins.

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