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 Re: Ever been defeated by a piece?
Author: paulwl 
Date:   2003-12-04 14:28

I didn't want to delurk again, but since the discussion has cooled off a bit, I figure it's worth a try.

And I promise not to try to make humanists out of any of you. No more wishing people nervous breakdowns. Them that can't hack it are to be regarded as victims of natural selection...personally tragic, but professionally inevitable, and in the end, best for the art.

Mark Charette wrote:

>> What you fail to see, I think, that in the end, on stage, in front of that audience, acting as a professional musician - it doesn't matter one whit what went into making that music. The audience doesn't care. <<

The Audience. That magnificent abstraction. That Which Does Not Care.

Not "the audience," which is just a hallful of people with differing minds and ears and opinions (notice I didn't say feelings, I'll give you that much). The Audience, the perfect critic, a cold sacred black monolith polished to a mirror shine that reflects every nuance of every note. The Audience is all.

>> What they care about is that you give a good performance - both in technique and artistry. <<

OK, that's a little less abstract. But why "good" when we've been talking "perfect?"

And are you really trying to please the audience? Isn't it the all-knowing critics you must please – the conductor, the MDs, the competition judges, the "monster" standards set by your teachers and peers?

GBK wrote:

>> Mozart: "Have you the notes on your instrument?"

Stadler: "To be sure they are on it."

Mozart: "Provided they exist it is your concern to produce them." <<

It's nice to see that things haven't changed since 1789...GBK <<

It's not nice, GBK. Not at all. But we're obviously not here to be nice.

My mother used to tell me: "We have to be kind and good to each other. What else do we have?" Well, I'm beginning to get an idea what else there is. Music as a sort of spiritual materialism, perhaps. There is what is less than human – the notes. And then there is what is more than human – call it the muse, God, genius, whatever. What is in between is irrelevant except as conduit.

I don't think I'll ever fully appreciate it, or why people give their lives to it, but I'm beginning to get an idea.

<$.04 = too overblown for $.02>

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