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 Re: Ever been defeated by a piece?
Author: Brenda 
Date:   2003-12-03 17:31

Mark - You're undoubtedly right about your experiences. However my comments were based on what I've heard and read over time. One discussion was with man I met in the course of preparing a Research and Development claim for him. He told me of the disinterest the commercial shippers have in the lives of the immigrants they hire by the dozens to work on the ships. This person had invented something to help protect lives in cases of disasters, and he was met with absolutely no interest. My husband agreed and has seen that kind of thing as well. He comes from a Navy family in South America - perhaps the Navy is different than the commercial shippers, but when you learn about the dreadful conditions these men work under it's quite shocking. Most of these men come from third world countries where life is indeed very disposable. Perhaps the U.S. treats their people a little better on account of law suits that can be a financial incentive to be more careful.

Likewise I've heard personal accounts of conditions under which professional musicians are forced to work. Medical journals tell about serious injuries to musicians that are left untreated just to keep up appearances, because others are in the wings ready to replace them as soon as an injury holds them back. Mental injury cannot be discounted so easily. Those who've not experienced it yet can't imagine the distress that others can impose. So it's very important to understand that these things happen and to protect ourselves, and if we're truly good friends, to help others through.



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