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Author: cyso_clarinetist
Date: 2003-06-11 08:48
I am just curious to see who on this board has graduated with a performance or education degree. This also applies to people who are in college or entering college who are performance based. Specify which degree (or both if you have them).
Thanks.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2003-06-11 10:51
Hi,
BSEd in Music Education from Ohio University.
MEd from Kent State and PhD from BGSU in education fields but not music.
I've moved to college teaching in another field, aviation. I have all the avaition ratings through CFII-ME and ATP with C-500 Type rating. Still play woodwinds professionally.
HRL
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2003-06-11 14:00
Both performance and education degrees from the University of Colorado. I am now a banker....no reflection on my education, though.
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Author: William
Date: 2003-06-11 14:22
Bachelor and Masters degrees in Music Education from the University of Wisconsin in Madison.
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2003-06-11 15:19
Outside of the USA it is less common to do a "degree" in performance. At conservatories in Europe you normally receive a diploma at the end of your studies. (Which makes more sense to me- a degree is supposed to be an acedemic study!) Are you also interested in those who received diplomas in performance?
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2003-06-11 16:20
BMus: Oberlin
MMus: Northwestern
Both in clarinet performance.
Katrina
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2003-06-11 16:49
As of May 20, 2003...
Clarinet Performance degree, University of Tennessee
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Author: ken
Date: 2003-06-11 16:55
BM Performance: NIU
MM Performance: Northwestern
Both Clarinet. v/r Ken
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2003-06-11 16:57
BME: Texas Christian University ('75)
ME: University of Houston ('85)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-06-11 18:50
BM Crane School of Music (SUNY at Potsdam) - music ed (with Level 3 performance certificate)
MA Queens College (CUNY) - music history ...GBK
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Author: lowclarinetman
Date: 2003-06-11 20:03
BM:oberlin clarinet performance
2nd phase/MM :rotterdam conservatory, Netherlands bass clarinet solo performance
bob
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2003-06-11 21:36
BMus (musicology) University of South Africa
Diplome de Virtuosite (clarinet) Conservatoire de Musique de Geneve
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Author: Francesca
Date: 2003-06-12 00:23
Someday I'll be receiving BAs in Music Education and Music Performance with emphasis in orchestral clarinet from Colorado State University.
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Author: Gretchen
Date: 2003-06-12 03:53
So to everyone who responded...what are you all doing now? are you still playing the clarinet? are you teaching? composing? Just curious! 
Gretchen
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-06-12 03:55
University of Michigan - pre-Med (3 year program)
Juilliard - Bachelor of Music
Juilliard - Master of Science (Columbia Grad. School)
Juilliard - Doctor of Musical Arts (DMA-ABD)
I play the clarinet and no one asks to see my Degrees.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2003-06-12 04:43
Bmus-performance, clarinet, Victorian College of the Arts (Melbourne, Australia), graduate 2005. (Sigh)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2003-06-12 12:10
Hartt - BM: Clarinet performance and Music Ed
Juilliard- MM: Clarinet performance
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2003-06-12 14:57
Birmingham Conservatoire Bmus (hons) (80%pref) 1997-2001
Royal College of Music (London) PGdip in orchesrtral performance
both degrees were peformance based. Got alot of experience in all aspects of playing.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: William
Date: 2003-06-12 15:35
Gretchen--since you asked, here is the "rest of the story."
I recently retired after teaching instrumental music classes (band and strings) for 34 yrs. I continue to perform in many orchestral, band and jazz ensembles, and like John Moses, no one (since I started playing professionally in high school) has ever asked to see any of my diplomas, nor have they worried about "who" I studied with--just how "good" I play.
I still hold a State of WI Lifetime Teaching Certificate and continue to substitue teach for my old school district, but the most requested document that I hold has always been my AF of F musicians union card--and if they don't keep raising the age requirment, I may someday attain Life Member in our local 166 union as well.
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Author: lowclarinetman
Date: 2003-06-12 21:30
well gretchen,
I am currently playing clarinets (mostly bass, some Eb and a lot of little clarinet) in Orquesta Sinfonica UANL, monterrey, mexico. I also teach a small studio of 15 clarinet,bass clarinet and saxophone students.
and my motto is will sacrifice anything to keep playing another day.
ciao
bob
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2003-06-13 07:08
B.Mus.Ed University of New South Wales
LTCL Trinity College of Music London
and soon to finish an M.A. (Hons) Macquarie University
Like a previous correspondent a play clarinet, saxophones and bassoon and nobody asks for my degree, it just hangs on a wall.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2003-06-13 11:34
Hi Everyone,
Several previous posters have mentioned that no one asks to see their degree. No one has asked for any of mine once I began to established my playing credentials. However, IMHO few of us would have acquired the necessary skills if we had not been in a very structured education or performance curriculum on our way to a degree/diploma.
I just don't want some of the younger members of the BB to think they don't need a degree and can just make it on their own. While there are always exceptions, that's a pretty hard way to go.
HRL
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Author: Ella
Date: 2003-06-13 13:23
I noticed a lot of degrees from Northwestern, and I was wondering if anyone had any advice about the dorms, etc. as I'm going to music camp there in a couple of weeks. Thanks!
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Author: Gretchen
Date: 2003-06-13 16:23
it's interesting to know that all of you are still in music and doing VERY well too...that's great. So many times I hear at school that almost 80% of music majors don't end up in music after all of that hard work because they can't get a job, or because they decide that a career in music is just too difficult. But I'm inspired by all of you who are still in music, because that's what I hope to do all my life. thanks for answering even though it wasn't my original question! (sorry cyso_clarinetist)
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Author: cassie
Date: 2003-06-13 17:14
In progress: BM clarinet performance at Christopher Newport University, Newport News, Virginia (just recently switched to perf from ed at end of my 3rd year, so I'm playing catch-up--will end up being a semester behind)
cassie
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Author: dfh
Date: 2003-06-13 17:17
BA - University of Illinois
MM - Manhattan School of music,
both as performance degrees. Now, 2+ years out of school, I make most of my $$ teaching privatly, which I love, but they don't really prep you for that as a performance major - which I think they should since just about EVERYBODY teaches at some point! I take all the gigs that come my way, but getting "established" can take some time. No one will ask to see your degree before they hire you for a local gig, but if you're applying to take orchestral auditions, they are important!
dfh
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Author: mnorswor
Date: 2003-06-13 19:41
B. M in performance Southern Illinois University at Carbondale
M.M. in performance New England Conservatory
Grad. Performance Diploma New England Conservatory
Like John J... I play the clarinet and noone cares where I went to school. I figure schools are great, practice is better.
--Michael Norsworthy
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2003-06-13 23:41
Gretchen:
Frequently Music Majors end up doing _something_ in _some_ musical field, just not the one they dreamt about during their undergrad years.
My story: I felt during my 16-21 year old period that I would make the best darn principal clarinetist any orchestra would ever have. Of course, I was lazier than I should have been to fulfill this dream! And during grad school I realized that I would not enjoy the lifestyle that achieving this goal would require. I didn't want to practice 8-12 hours a day just to perfect orchestral excerpts, MAYBE get an orchestra gig, and then "have" to play all the music the way the "man with the stick" wanted it played.
I realized that I needed my own say in what I performed and how I performed it. For example, I HATE Tchaikovsky. No hate mail please, but I really really don't like it!  At any rate, I realized that if I were in an orchestra, I'd have to play some Tchaik at some point...LOL!!
At any rate, after taking a three-year hiatus from playing at all, I "found" international folk music, got most of my chops back, and really found a way to keep playing and make some money doing it. I've played Balkan music professionally now, and have started a chamber group (clarinet, violin, and accordion) and really want to make sure my career is one I want. I've also been private teaching for 5 years now, and really enjoy that too.
Oh yeah, and I wasn't completely out of the music loop while I wasn't playing and before I started teaching: I've worked music retail (cd's) for nearly 10 years now, and had been working on a musicology degree...
So don't rule anything out when you're young, like I did!
Sorry this was so long!
Katrina
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Author: kegs
Date: 2003-06-14 04:14
BM University of Michigan
MM Manhattan School of Music
both performance.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-06-14 14:15
Stay in school
Get your Degrees
Network like crazy
Don't bad mouth the "big guys"
Keep your mind open to new ideas
Play in as many groups as possible
Find a great teacher/mentor
Practice...practice ...practice
Good luck, that helps too!
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: 68fordfalcon
Date: 2003-06-15 07:37
BM Oberlin (Hi lowclarinetman)
Two years at DePaul working on MM, spaced on some papers, haven't gotten the degree, but made good use of the private instruction. thanks to LC
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Author: Gretchen
Date: 2003-06-16 02:37
Katrina:
That's quite a story, but i'm glad you told it...I'm currently going to be a junior performance major, and I'm starting to think of things that I want to do when I get out of school...like you, and pretty much everyone on the planet (it seems) I want to play in an orchestra, but I know that that dream isn't going to be fulfilled right away. So I'm a little worried about what I'm going to do with my life until then. I definately want to teach privately though...but I'm glad you're happy and you're still playing and enjoying music the way you want to. Go you!
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Author: Laurie
Date: 2003-06-16 03:53
Sophomore at The Crane School of Music ~ BM, Clarinet Ed/ Performance (only time will tell which one I graduate with... lol )
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