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Author: Baron
Date: 2006-07-13 01:20
All the notes g and under seem to hard to tongue. It's like when ever i tongue them the oboe blurps at the beggining of the note. i don't know how to lighten my tounging. it seems as the higher notes are much easier to tongue then the low ones. can somebody please tell me the correct way to tonguing the lower register without cracking the begging of the notes.( is it the reeds or the player)
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Author: Thomas.
Date: 2006-07-13 06:08
Why don't you just "learn to play"
Back on topic... as to whether it is the reed or the oboist, it could be both, try several reeds to find out which.
The oboist:
With low notes make sure you're not biting. Try to make quite a long stroke with your tongue and try not to tongue too much directly on the opening of the reed.
The reed:
If your reed is too hard it may be causing the problem.
Your oboe may need adjusting, ask your teacher to check this for you.
Post Edited (2006-07-13 07:34)
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Author: HautboisJJ
Date: 2006-07-13 13:20
- Too much reed is taken into mouth.
- More air for low notes to start the vibration, thus over tongue stops air flow, lighten touch.
- Embouchure is too tense.
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Author: d-oboe
Date: 2006-07-13 14:52
I always advocate this:
"Roll out" for low notes. It really helps to be playing with very little reed in the mouth. You should have a very loose embouchure, but the only thing is that when it's loose you have to b-l-o-w. Low notes need quite a bit of air, so don't be shy.
Really be sure that there is proper air first, and once you're sure you're blowing (overblow even) then you can adjust so that notes don't crack, or honk out.
The trick to getting low notes out quietly is very often determined by the responsiveness of the reed. However, it's better to learn ways around a so-so reed, for those times when knives/cane/sanity are having problems. (especially that last one:)) Learn to be flexible enough to deal with the occasional descrepancies that reeds will always have. (Always)
Further down the road, if you make your own reeds, you will develop enough skill to know exactly what a reed needs, and adjust it on the spot without compromising anything else, rather than just having to "deal with it."
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Author: mosh
Date: 2006-07-14 03:16
Hi Baron,
Here is an exercise that the late Anthony Camden had all students do ( you can see articles on him at www.adrs.org.au), after 20+ years in the London Symphony he always said that you needed to start the reed when the conductor put down the baton, or just not play !!
So, his daily exercise ( or the jist of what it was)...
On your "scale of the day" try doing this.
#1 - Finger the note ( ie. low d)
#2 - Blow air down ( whith your reed in mouth & embrochure etc.)
#3 - Stop the air with your tounge ( feel the amount of air required to start the note)
#4 - Release the Tounge and "invigorate" the reed with air, (ie. start the reed by drawing back the tounge, NOT atacking the reed with it..)
Repeat on all notes up the scale...
This is a GREAT exercise for when you want a clean start to any note, especially down low...
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Author: d-oboe
Date: 2006-07-14 14:02
Mosh,
I would go even further and say that ALL notes should be tongued in the method you described, at all times.
d
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2006-07-14 15:58
All the advice here about getting clean low notes is good. There's one other thing that always needs to be considered, though, and that is the adjustment of the instrument. The turn of a screw or two can make a huge difference.
I find that the F res key is often the culprit -- it twists itself too open on my oboe from time to time. This usually affects just the C and below.
Susan
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Author: Elise
Date: 2006-07-14 17:43
I also find a very slow vibrato helps sustain long low notes. Good luck!
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