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Author: Kai
Date: 2006-10-13 13:22
Hi fellows,
While reading the IDRS Journal 2006, I came across an article about Albrecht Mayer visiting a Military Orchestra (Masterclasses, Rehearsals etc) and in the photos, he was holding an oboe that has a white-coloured top (the round 'mushroom head' top of the upper joint that holds the reed)! It looks normal except for the colour, white or maybe creamish?
Anybody has any idea what this might be?
Cheers, Kai
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-10-13 18:13
Could even be a Guntram Wolf oboe.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2006-10-14 01:56
Was it like a Josef oboe at http://www.josef-oboe.com/english/product/oboe.html ?
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2006-10-14 02:49
<http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=10&i=4895&t=4895>
"Two interesting pictures have emerged from the recent I.D.R.S. Conference in Victoria. The first is one of the participants (L. to R.) Guntram Wolf from Western Germany; Phillip Young from Canada; Hubert Henkel from East Germany; and Han de Vries from Holland. All four loaned instruments from their own collections to the wonderful oboe and bassoon exhibition at the Conference."
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The longest single internet addy I have ever seem!
S.
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Author: sylvangale
Date: 2006-10-14 08:27
Guntram Wolf is an oboe maker/brand.
The oboe crown (bulbous area around reed well) is white. Guntram uses white and black crowns to differentiate between types of oboes. I think they use the white crown for French conservatoire and black for another system.
(oboe "crown" may not be the right word, but I figured that would explain the area for everyone)
Regards,
Stephen
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-10-14 08:57
'Crown' is the right word.
I can't access Guntram Wolf's site, but he makes maple bodied oboes (with an ebonite lined bore) which have a stained body, but the crown is left white.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2006-10-14 08:59)
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Author: Thomas.
Date: 2006-10-14 08:59
Why does the oboe have a crown, why isn't it an exact cone shape from top to bottom?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-10-14 09:00
Rigoutat make oboes without a crown.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Kai
Date: 2006-10-14 10:16
Can't see anything on Josef's site that resembles that oboe nor could I get into Guntram Wolf's site.
Could the crown's purpose just be a decorative function on the top end of the upper joint wood that was cut to be to be thicker for safety, stability etc?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-10-14 10:51
It's only really an ornamental feature on French-style oboes (which are made by Howarth, Püchner, Bulgheroni, Yamaha, Dupin, etc. and not just oboes by French makers) that has been retained since the outline of the oboe was smoothed out, and has no effect on the tone.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: OboeAgain
Date: 2006-10-14 13:10
I think what you saw is a Viennese oboe. If you have ever seen performances by a Viennese orchestra you'd see that type of oboe.
If you Google Viennese oboe several links come up with more information. Here is one:
http://iwk.mdw.ac.at/Forschung/english/wrinst/ewroboe1.htm
Walter
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Author: Kai
Date: 2006-10-15 06:50
Hi OboeAgain,
No. Like I said, the difference is the crown colour (or material,) everything else is the French Oboe.
Would be interesting for Albrecht Mayer to play in America with a Viennese Oboe!
Kai
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Author: mschmidt
Date: 2006-10-16 18:15
I think subtly different shapes of crown may be used to distinguish, i.e. advertise, the make of oboe. At least that seems to sometimes be the case.
Mike
Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-10-16 18:53
But several makes have the Loree style crown, so not everything is what it seems.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: sylvangale
Date: 2006-11-05 02:24
Attachment: AlbrechtMayer.jpg (363k)
Here's Albrecht Mayer and the oboe, attached image. (from IDRS Journal, Vol 29, No. 1, p28 -- The journal with Ball State Univesity on cover)
Regards,
Stephen
(Edit: page number, duh!)
♫ Stephen K.
Post Edited (2006-11-05 06:28)
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Author: oboemelli
Date: 2006-11-09 15:20
When I met Albrecht Mayer I asked him about the oboe, but I don't remember exactly what he said! I think he said it was another Buffet that was made for him and it had a different sound, so he liked to use that oboe sometimes. He however, that day had a normal greenline oboe - he let me hold it infact, he just handed it over when he got it out of the case!
"People imagine they can reach one another. In reality they only pass each other by"- Schubert.
Post Edited (2006-11-09 15:20)
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