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Re: Lightening Up My Tongue

Author: sylvangale
Date: 2006-05-19 06:58

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What other purpose is there in tonguing other than to stop the tone?

I've never used my tongue to simply stop a tone.

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Well, maybe to start the tone, but that's what happens when you withdraw the tongue from its position on the corner of the reed.

I've never tongued the corner of a reed to start a tone.

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Are you suggesting that Sprenkle is suggesting that one stops the tone on the corner, scoots the tongue over to the opening of the reed, and then pulls away the tongue to start the tone?

It was suggested that in Sprenkles book "Art of Oboe Playing" that he promoted corner tonguing. Corner tonguing is not promoted in that book.

I cannot fathom using the tongue to stop the reed from sounding at all. I know some people do resort to using their tongue to stop sound and not necessarily at the corner. I've always thought that was wrong though. As I've never resorted to using my tongue to stop tone I have no problems stopping my tone with out tongue intervention.

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Good luck doing that with sixteenths at MM=144.

Tonguing at faster than norm tempo may necessitate alternatives such as double tonguing and/or play with tongue position. Flutes resort to double tonguing with various methods of articulating as they have limits to how fast they can comfortably single tongue.

However I do not believe using such aides at all times is beneficial and can be detrimental to tone.

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I've gone over to only using my tongue at the corner of the reed. It works. Try it. There is no need to completely close off the opening to the reed, and doing so has grave consequences for the flow of air and the continuity of line.

But I can tongue fine straight and center and I do not close the opening of the reed as I do not tongue the tip, but the area beneath it. By tonguing the corner of the reed you are displacing flow of air into the reed. The corner tongue angle of your tongue is not terribly aerodynamic.

Try this for example. While focusing air at your soft pallete, center tongue the outer edge of the soft palette area in the back of your mouth and then move your tongue to either sides and feel the difference.

The air should flow into the reed like a funnel. The focal point being the soft palette and your tongue serving as the guide into the reed.

Though as much as I do not believe corner tonguing to be a legitimate method for long term everyday tonguing I went ahead and asked about the subject with the IDRS in hopes of further insight of the legitimacy of corner tonguing as an acceptable method and where it may have come from.

Regards,
Stephen
Los Angeles, CA

♫ Stephen K.

Post Edited (2006-05-19 07:04)

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