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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2022-08-16 00:50
When quickly going from a full finger “D” to its octave, do you too require the smallest amount of air column reduction between the notes so as not too squeak?
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Author: kdk
Date: 2022-08-16 01:08
Do you mean an octave lower? Some reeds, yes. Good reeds, no.
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2022-08-16 05:42
Can't say that I've had that issue. But squeaking sounds like something is not stable, whether it is a mouthpiece issue or a leaky pad or mechanical issue with a key, or coordination of the keys.
There is always playing the D two ledger lines above the staff open. You can add the last or the last two side keys if you need to raise the pitch.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2022-08-16 18:35
Thanks. I think I need to slow the metronome down and increase it slowly until the point that these squeaks happens. It may be micro differences in fingering the D6 ![[D6]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/d6.gif) such that all the fingers land as close to the same time as possible, or the micro differences in when those fingers land such that squeaks don't arise, that I need to isolate.
:)
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Author: Slowoldman
Date: 2022-08-16 23:40
For me, all of the following needed attention to get it right:
Inconsistent finger placement or coordination
Transient drop in air support (in anticipation of failure to hit the note--Clearly self-defeating!)
Inadvertent tightening of lower lip/jaw (same)
Steve
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Author: Tom H
Date: 2022-08-17 05:36
Steve points out problems. Can't say I've had to consciously think about this octave jump (unless when I was a beginner I suppose). There may be a little different approach if you slur up to the high D. Perhaps a bit of rolling off the first hole LH with index finger for a smoother connection?
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Author: Matt74
Date: 2022-08-17 17:36
IMO it sometimes helps to crack one or more fingers a bit (or change fingerings) to trigger the change when going from a stable note to a less stable one. That said, voicing is much more important. If you are reinforcing the the lower note enough it won't switch. Work on getting a resonant high note, then play the lower note with as little change as possible. The high note will then speak easier when you want it.
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2022-08-17 18:11
Hi:
Perhaps I should have stated this early, but my context here is Spohr's Clarinet Concerto I, Mvt 1, around measure 33. 
I can make the jump, I just find myself making micro pauses in the air column between the notes to avoid squeaking.
And I was wondering if this was as necessary as such micro pauses are when moving from an higher note on the clarinet to a lower one, or if it was me.
:)
Post Edited (2022-08-17 18:53)
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Author: prigault
Date: 2022-08-17 20:20
SecondTry wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Perhaps I should have stated this early, but my context here is
> Spohr's Clarinet Concerto I, Mvt 1, around measure 33.
>
For this passage, I suggest you play the high D with the following fingering:
G# -23 | 12-
This fingering is ideal for D after large intervals coming from lower notes, and has excellent tone (and pitch). The standard D fingering, when jumping to it from the clarion, is not only harder to play legato but also tends to be easily harsh (you could alleviate this a bit by not putting your right pinky on the Eb key, but the above-suggested fingering is even better IMHO).
Post Edited (2022-08-17 20:27)
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2022-08-19 02:03
prigault wrote:
> SecondTry wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > Perhaps I should have stated this early, but my context here
> is
> > Spohr's Clarinet Concerto I, Mvt 1, around measure 33.
> >
>
> For this passage, I suggest you play the high D with the
> following fingering:
>
> G# -23 | 12-
>
> This fingering is ideal for D after large intervals coming from
> lower notes, and has excellent tone (and pitch). The standard D
> fingering, when jumping to it from the clarion, is not only
> harder to play legato but also tends to be easily harsh (you
> could alleviate this a bit by not putting your right pinky on
> the Eb key, but the above-suggested fingering is even better
> IMHO).
>
>
> Post Edited (2022-08-17 20:27)
That was a fabulous suggestion! Thank you so much!
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2022-08-22 09:52
> For this passage, I suggest you play the high D with the
> following fingering:
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> G# -23 | 12-
>
> This fingering is ideal for D after large intervals coming from
> lower notes,
It also works really at the end of the exposition of the Mozart Concerto (first movement) in the 16th notes that go back and forth between altissimo C# and D. It's one of Yehuda Gilad's favorite suggestions for this piece.
Anders
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Author: donald
Date: 2022-08-22 16:19
That fingering may also work well on A clarinet- a lot of Buffet A clarinets have the problem that the Altissimo D without the Eb key is a tad flat (especially noticiable if thumb C next to it is high), but WITH the Eb key it's too sharp... This fingering solves that problem, esp for the high jumps in K622 Adagio etc
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