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 Re: can a 20$
Author: cyclopathic 
Date:   2014-03-18 18:50

Not sure why this turned into Pruefer discussion.. anyways

@Ursa

Silver Throats could be made to play more or less in tune by installing 1/16" tuning ring on MPC side (with most of playing within 10%). Still C#/G# is incredibly (40%+) sharp and no amount of work can make it play in tune and clear. Unibody Festival may not have issue with C#/G# as they could drill it lower. Or it might as they used the same keys and use the same template. And still even with tuning ring intonations are much worse then on any Vito/Normandy which you can pick for about the same price.

Pruefer Professional had the worse intonations I ever have seen, by large margin much worse then cheap chinese plastic.. And if you look at Phill's reviews at clarinet pages, none of the Pruefers he reviewed had good intonations. But since the Hans Moennig did work for Pruefer in 1920s, and there were some other good craftsman working for G Pruefer, some of their horns could be very good.

Also comparing 3 Pruefers side by side they had exactly same intonations issues (so if tone was off by 20% it was off on other +-3%), using stock MPC or VD45. Which leads me to believe that it was either inherit design issue they ignored, or they were built for very different MPC. Perhaps someone who plays large bore MPC could comment?

@wanabe
"The Festival Model one-piece clarinet, exclusively distributed by Targ & Dinner, Inc., prominent wholesalers.." It has been listed from 1958 to 1974 in different publications. Since it is a stencil, perhaps Pruefer were labeling some of the other models from their lineup as "festival"?

With respect to your Couesnon Monopole, some of them could be re-badged Penzel-Muellers, if the numbers are listed on right side vertically. The story is that when PM went bankrupt some of the stocks got bought out and sold under different names. I have a New Artist which was re-badged and delivered as Bundy, and clarinet pages list Monopole which is clearly a PM horn.

edited grammar



Post Edited (2014-03-18 20:13)

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