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Author: Silvericm
Date: 2012-04-11 06:34
Someone has told me that the signet special is a large bore clarinet and therefor will be out of tune. Is there any way to get it in tune?
Nathan Beal
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2012-04-11 06:45
Rubbish.
Why would someone purposely build a clarinet that is out of tune?
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Ben
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Author: SteveG_CT
Date: 2012-04-11 13:25
Silvericm wrote:
> Someone has told me that the signet special is a large bore
> clarinet and therefor will be out of tune. Is there any way to
> get it in tune?
>
Whoever told you this is misinformed about the bore size of the Signet clarinets as well as the nature of larger bore clarinets. The Signet clarinets were actually not large bore. Nominally they used a 14.55mm bore, not much different from what is used on most clarinets today.
Second, large bore clarinets are not inherently out of tune. Many of them actually have very good intonation. I'd wager that a new Peter Eaton Elite (15.2mm bore) will play every bit as well and probably better than a typical Buffet R13.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2012-04-11 13:42
Someone has told me that if I stick a magnet on my car's fuel line, the gasoline molecules will align and my car will get 100mpg.
I hate it when nonsense gets spread around. A downside of the Internet world, I guess.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2012-04-11 18:07
David Spiegelthal wrote:
> I hate it when nonsense gets spread around. A downside of the
> Internet world, I guess.
Still - a seed has to fall on fertile soil in order to sprout...
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Ben
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Author: Ursa
Date: 2012-04-11 19:57
Nathan, there are so many other details that affect tuning that blanket statements about one bore configuration versus another are meaningless.
Test-play five Signet Specials using a tuner and you'll find that some tune better than others and no two tune alike. The same holds true for the Buffet R-13 and any other clarinet model that you can think of.
Wood shrinks and expands, and as this occurs, tone holes change position relative to the column of air vibrating in the bore. Barrels, which are subject to all the moisture spewed out of your mouthpiece, can easily change shape internally and wreak havoc with tuning. A clarinet that had excellent tuning when it left the assembly line can eventually become horrible due to these effects. With proper care and maintenance of an instrument, we can try to minimize these effects.
Your choice of mouthpiece also can greatly affect the tuning of your clarinet, too.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2012-04-12 17:30
I own a Selmer Signet Special (1979). It's got excellent intonation. I've never tried a clarinet that had *perfect* intonation all the way up and down chalumeau, throat tones, clarion and altissimo. All the clarinets I've ever played, including my pro-quality Buffets, have some intonation compromises because that's the nature of a reed pipe with fixed holes and keys that play in multiple octaves. But the Selmer Signet Special plays better in tune than most clarinets I've tried. (I'm only an amateur, but my electronic tuner is a pro.)
Lelia
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Author: stevesklar
Date: 2012-04-13 09:01
I think the Signets are wonderful playing clarinets when properly set up. And very well in tune too.
Though I do wonder if that fuel line magnet, if attached to a clarinet would improve it's tone ? joking of course
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