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Schwenke Clarinet Concerto/Mozart Fragment

Author: Laurelin
Date: 2011-07-11 17:14

Alright, so my first question is , does anyone have the Mozart fragment? I cannot find it online. You'd think that IMSLP would have it, but nope. If you do have it and can share it as a pdf, I would be very, very grateful.

What I really want to do is compare the fragment with the piano quintet version arranged by Schwenke somewhere between 1799 - 1805. I read an article about the Concerto that mentioned Schwenke as being based on the original Mozart Manuscript, and therefore being more accurate than the early published solo editions. It also mentioned Schwenke as a good source of information about period performance practice.

It also mentions that the Mozart Fragment is a 'draft' which implies it wasn't the final version of the concerto. Is that correct?

Article is called "Reading Between the (Ledger) Lines: Performing Mozart's music for Basset Clarinet.

Schwenke's Piano quintet can be found at IMSLP. It has enough ornamentation in it to make me think that Martin Frost might have been more historically accurate, not less. it is also much more technical - on the "rocket passages at m. 334, it goes from the basset low C all the way to a altissimo E, due to an extra beat of notes, and the next rocket accelerates a bit at the end - triplet sixteenth notes to a altissimo F#, and the next accelrates more - eighth note low C, sixteenth notes, 32nd notes, end on a high G.

So it is significantly different from the standard published solo versions, which I find very interesting. It is likely that performing the solo the schwenke way in front of a judge panel would be a bad idea, but I'm not sure who I'm going to perform in front of, or if I'm performing it at all. I'm just studying the solo right now, trying to create a version for my A clarinet that I like and is as accurate as I can possibly get it.

So... any thoughts?

Thanks,
Laura

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Re: Schwenke Clarinet Concerto/Mozart Fragment

Author: Laurelin
Date: 2011-07-15 00:08

So, I thought I had attached both the article and the Schwenke Piano Quintet, but apparently I didn't, so here is try two.

And a backup in case I fail at attaching again

http://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/2/26/IMSLP72382-PMLP03144-5745.Mozart-K622arSchwencke.pdf is the Schwenke piano quintet

http://ccdl.libraries.claremont.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/ppr&CISOPTR=409&REC=1 is Robert Adelson's article.

Post Edited (2011-07-15 00:13)

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Re: Schwenke Clarinet Concerto/Mozart Fragment

Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2011-07-15 04:25

The Winterthur fragment can be found at:
http://dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/nmapub_srch.php?l=2
at the end of the Clarinet Concerto (page 165).

>It also mentions that the Mozart Fragment is a 'draft' which implies it wasn't the >final version of the concerto. Is that correct?

Yes. The Winterthur fragment is the beginning of a concerto for basset horn in G.

Simon

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Re: Schwenke Clarinet Concerto/Mozart Fragment

Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2011-07-15 11:25

You might find these interesting:

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1999/05/000200.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1999/05/000330.txt

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1999/05/000495.txt

Some of it is to do with making the Winterthur fragment available on the Woodwind.org pages; in the end, Mark had to take it down -- for copyright reasons? -- but it's available via Simon's link.

Tony

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Re: Schwenke Clarinet Concerto/Mozart Fragment

Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2011-07-15 12:20

Tony Pay wrote:

> in the end, Mark had to
> take it down -- for copyright reasons?

Not quite copyright - licensing issues. When you possess the only copy, you can contractually restrict the copying. Which is what the Mozarteum does. You're free to make your own copy of the notes & markings, etc., but you're not allowed to distribute a facsimile without their permission.

Which they won't give.

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