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Author: Kontra
Date: 2011-01-14 18:10
I know these horns are loved for their sound in jazz/dixieland, but are these any good for classical music? If that, is there any clarinetist who does play an Albert in a classical setting?
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2011-01-14 18:15
If you count their modern variety in, then yes, pretty much every orchestra in Germany and Austria. :-)
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Ben
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2011-01-14 18:37
Ben said it --- the current Oehler-system clarinets are developments of the Albert system, in the same way that a full-Boehm clarinet is a development of a standard Boehm.
I don't think they inherently sound different --- in my opinion the differences have more to do with choices of mouthpiece, ligature, and the player's approach. I have Oehler and Boehm-system Bb clarinets and, depending on what mouthpiece I use, sound pretty much the same on both instruments.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-01-15 15:37
They all sound like clarinets for me, too! The only thing to watch out for with the vintage and antique Alberts is that a lot of them are High Pitch. Look for one that's marked LP, for Low Pitch, which is A=440. That's a tad low for some modern orchestras that tune to A=442 (or even A-444, apparently), but the old High Pitch is *too* high.
Lelia
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Author: Kontra
Date: 2011-01-15 16:36
The Albert system's actually have 'LP' stamped on them?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-01-15 18:46
Not always - mainly the ones made in the first half of the 20th will most likely have 'LP' or 'HP' markings on them as makers produced instruments of both pitches side-by-side.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2011-01-16 14:14
There is no inherent difference created by the fingering system, but the way the bore was made and the tone holes were cut will make a difference.
For example, Buffet and Selmer continued to make Albert systems for years after they still offered Boehm.
I would wager that an Albert and Boehm by the same company and same period will sound as similar as two Boehms of the same company and year.
However, many of the Alberst out there now are in the German tradition, so one will need to use appropriate mouthpieces/reeds, thus resulting in a different tone.
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Author: mrn
Date: 2011-01-16 16:16
I remember Tony Pay mentioning once on here that he owns an Albert system clarinet. I don't know what he uses it for, but if I had to guess, I'd figure it was for period performance of late 19th century classical pieces rather than for dixieland. Maybe he can tell us.
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