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Author: Linda SLP ★2017
Date: 2010-12-13 19:23
I've been looking in vain for an affordable Eb/Bb double case. Has anyone found one recently?
I can't afford a Wiseman, and haven't found anyone who carries a Gigliotti.
Does anybody think it would be possible to alter an A/Bb case? If so, is there one that might work more easily than another?
Thanks,
Linda
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Author: NBeaty
Date: 2010-12-13 20:22
Your best bet, for a inexpensive and custom fit, would be to make one yourself from a briefcase (laptop size). All that is necessary is a piece of somewhat hard foam (feel the foam of a bam case as a reference) as well as some fabric to cover it. Shaving out parts of the foam for the various parts of the instruments\mouthpieces. Another piece of foam to come down over the top of the instruments to lightly hold them in place would also be good.
Many people use gun cases of varying sizes as clarinet cases. Might be worth looking into as there are many types and sizes.
I assume you either don't own an A clarinet or don't use one and that's why you're looking for this combination. If you have aspirations of owning an A clarinet (or do own one) a Marcus Bonna double case would be the best option. It has room for Bb\A\and Eb as well as extra barrels and mouthpieces. There are discussions on this board of these cases (and is my case of choice).
When I carry the Marcus Bonna with all three clarinets (Or Bb\A\C combination) with my reeds, music, metronome, and other accesories it is still lighter and more comfortable than any double case. The only one that could be lighter would be the Bam light, but you can't fit three instruments in there, and can't fit much in the way of music\accessories.
Good luck.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2010-12-13 22:26
I have a friend who modified a Bb/A double case to fit a Bb and Eb. It was a pochette style and works great. I am sure it can be done with other cases as well.
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2010-12-16 22:35
Nathan,
When I last talked to the Marcus Bonna people, they did not have a triple case, and I can't find it on their website. Do you really have a triple A/Bb/C case? If so, where did you get it.
Thanks,
Ralph
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Author: concertmaster3
Date: 2010-12-17 06:11
IIRC, I think most people who have said that they use their Bonna case as a triple case put the Eb clarinet in the accessories compartment.
Ron Ford
Woodwind Specialist
Performer/Teacher/Arranger
http://www.RonFordMusic.com
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Author: Clarimeister
Date: 2010-12-17 08:50
I have a Triple case for Bb/A/Eb that I got from Musical Bags from Spain. They are over seas, but I have used this case for years and absolutely love it. The US dealer for these is from Musical Enterprises Berps & Bags here: http://www.berp.com/bags/clarinet.html
I don't think they have a case for Bb/Eb only, but the triple is definitely a nice case. I love it.
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Author: 2cekce ★2017
Date: 2010-12-20 00:10
I have a Bb and Eb and I took a briefcase and a gun case both of which was inexpensive and went to a hobby store that sells that green or white foam you stick plastic flowers into to hold them in place and it comes in large square sizes so you can cut it to fit any case, its easy to cut and spoon out with a butterknife or baby spoon to fit whatever instrument parts and pieces you want to put in the case. I quite often do my own cases to fit my tastes as the ones at the music stores are never what I want. oh and the cloth I use I get a yard of from the local fabric store along with the fabric glue.
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Author: NBeaty
Date: 2010-12-20 18:22
Ralph,
The marcus bonna double case is a tripple case in disguise. While it is not officially a tripple (as the company told you) it is capable of safely and easily carrying Bb\A\Eb or Bb\A\C with ample room for accessories. There are threads with more detailed descriptions by Simon Aldrich (who carries 3 instruments, his laptop, and lunch!).
-Nathan
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2010-12-21 01:02
Nathan,
Looking at Marcus Bona's website, I can see how the double case might fit an Eb, but skeptical about a C. Sticking with my home-made case - not elegant but durable.
Regards,
Ralph
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Author: Ebclarinet1
Date: 2010-12-23 05:13
I have the Gigglioti case and it is fine for just Bband Eefer. The handle is a little flimsy but it is not much worse than the standard R13 Bb case in most respects. I wish it had a bit more storage room. You can fit a bit of music in the pocket but not much more than a few reeds and an extra mouthpiece in the case itself. I generally put a reed carrier in the pocket area too but even it is pretty tight.
Think i bought this one at Muncy's but it's been a while.
Eefer guy
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Author: Kalakos
Date: 2010-12-23 08:05
I had been looking for triple cases for a long time in which to carry my Albert clarinets (A, Bb, and C). It was difficult to find a gun case or brief case that work ideally, although I did make one from a gun case. It was fine, but was bigger then it needed to be.
I finally bought a few months ago a triple case from Hammerschmidt in Germany. It was so nice, I then bought a second one. Plenty of spaces for extra barrels, mouthpieces, etc. The only possible drawback was that they set their cases up so that you leave the bell attached to the lower joint. I would prefer otherwise, but decided that for years I had used that type of double pouchette case and because I always carefully used cork grease properly, I never once had the bell stick to the lower joint. I should have no trouble with these either.
You might try contacting them. There is an English speaking person who handles their products in Australia, and I bought from him. I can send info. and a picture or two if you want to contact me off list, or on list, whatever.
John
Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com
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Author: Ralph
Date: 2011-01-11 03:10
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As Linda, I've been on a mission to find a case that would hold both my Eb and Bb clarinets. The only case that I could find was the Wiseman. Even though I believe the Wiseman is an ingenious design and is quite rugged, I just couldn't get over the price. I decided to remake an older case (BAM I believe) that I picked up with an equipment purchase. This case was originally a double case. I removed the lower half of the case. I found an individual that specializes in making transport cases for shipment. He provided the new foam material and in an hour he had cut out spacing for my Bb and Eb clarinets. Pictures are attached. I'm not quite finished with this effort. I need to make a trip to a fabric shop to buy fabric for the case. While not as beautiful as a Wiseman or other cases, my new case is very functional.
Ralph
Post Edited (2011-01-11 03:17)
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Author: Linda SLP ★2017
Date: 2011-01-22 03:14
Well, I just spent 1/2 day altering a $25 Woodwind A/Bb double case into a Bb/Eb double case.
I bought some scrap closed cell (I think polyethylene) foam at a packaging/foam/boxing store, cut it out with a serrated knife, and covered it with the original fabric.
The zipper was quite tight even before I took the case apart, and it is tighter now, so I hope it will last. If not, I'm out time, but not much money.
I'm attaching pictures. Not perfect, but at least I can afford it. I really tried to find a Gigliotti case, but they never responded to my email or voice mail, and no one seems to stock one.
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Author: Linda SLP ★2017
Date: 2011-01-22 03:37
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Well, I just spent 1/2 day altering a $25 Woodwind A/Bb double case into a Bb/Eb double case.
I took out the A clarinet section and the center storage area to get my Eb in diagonally. I used a hair dryer to loosen the glue (maybe it was just beeswax - at least it smelled that way).
I bought some scrap closed cell (I think polyethylene) foam at a packaging/foam/boxing store, cut it out with a serrated knife, and covered it with the original fabric.
The zipper was quite tight even before I took the case apart, and it is tighter now (quite a wrestle to get the case back on the box), so I hope it will last. If not, I'm out time, but not much money.
I'm attaching pictures. Not perfect, but at least I can afford it. I really tried to find a Gigliotti case, but they never responded to my email or voice mail, and no one seems to stock one.
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Author: saxlite
Date: 2011-01-22 14:39
Ralph- where did you get the grey foam you used? Thanks
Jerry
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Author: Ralph
Date: 2011-01-22 22:20
It turned out that I did not have to purchase the foam, as the case builder who altered my original double case provided the foam. Prior to locating this person, I did locate a business via the WW that sells all sorts of foam...link attached.
"http://www.myfoam.com/products.cgi?cart=&item=packing"
Hope this helps.
Ralph
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Author: susieray
Date: 2011-09-11 23:38
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I just finished spending about 15 minutes (!) altering a Leblanc/Backun Bb/A case into an Eb/Bb case. I couldn't believe how easy it was!
First, I purchased the Leblanc/Backun double pouchette case which was designed for use with the now discontinued Leblanc Legacy. I purchased the case, brand new, with a zippered cover, for only $99 including shipping from Wichita Band. http://www.wichitaband.com They've got quite a few of these cases available right now.
What I did was so simple. I used the slot for the A clarinet's upper joint and barrel for the body of the eefer. There is a small divider between these two sections, so I needed to make a small cut in the velvet and dig out some of the styrofoam with a screwdriver, but that was quick and easy. I was able to re-shape the area by pressing the foam here and there to compress it so that it now fits the eefer body perfectly.
The slot which would have held the A clarinet lower joint and bell is being used for the eefer mouthpiece and bell, with room for more stuff (swab, etc) Hope I explained this well enough, I am attaching a photo of the finished case. Like I said, it was so quick and easy, I think most anyone could do this themselves unless they are totally all thumbs.
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2011-09-12 16:56
French company FEL do a good quality Bb/Eb double, and a similar Bb/A/Eb triple.
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Author: susieray
Date: 2011-09-12 19:08
Yes there are cases available, but they can be spendy.....I was trying to save $$$ by doing it myself. This was only $99 total cost, shipping included, for a brand new case and case cover. It's very compact, not much bigger than some single cases, and it didn't take much time to alter it either :-)
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Author: BG ★2017
Date: 2011-09-12 20:15
If you search the Arkives section and this clarinet bulletin board, try typing in "Solution for Bb/Eb case" I posted a relatively inexpensive solution with a picture of a modified case that I am very satisfied with.
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Author: DarylGolden
Date: 2014-02-26 18:12
Hi Suzie - I saw your post on the Leblanc case you modified to hold Bb and Effer. Was wondering if you were still happy with the case? I was thinking of getting one and doing your suggested modification. Thanks, Daryl
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Author: DarylGolden
Date: 2014-02-26 23:17
Hi Suzie - I saw your post on the Leblanc case you modified to hold Bb and Effer. Was wondering if you were still happy with the case? I was thinking of getting one and doing your suggested modification. Thanks, Daryl
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Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-02-27 00:31
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Someone mentioned the use of floral foam, I believe its called, prior. It's the stuff that floral arrrangers use to stick the ends of flowers in, given its highly malleable and water holding properties.
You won't need to cut this stuff to get it to conform to the shape of your instrument's sections. The application of small pressure of a clarinet joint against this foam: (with watering the foam neither being required nor recommended) pressure that in no way should damage the instrument or its keys, should cause the form to permanently make identations precisely the size of the instrument piece to which such pressure was applied.
Omnipresent brick and mortar US stores like Michaels ]http://www.michaels.com may also offer this on their website.
I've enclosed some pictures.
(I neither work for, own shares in this market, endorse, nor oppose Michaels.)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-02-26 21:46
That stuff florists use is also called oasis - it does tend to break down to fine grains, so not sure if it's good for instrument cases.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-02-27 01:26
Chris--I'll take your word on it as I bear no expertise in the material.
I will say that this block I have is several years old and never broke down, but then again, I never touched it during this time either.
I'll assume that said fragility also applies to when the stuff is dry?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-02-27 11:54
Whenever I've encountered oasis it has tended to be on the brittle side both wet and dry and doesn't recover.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2014-02-27 14:40
Problem is that it crushes and breaks under pressure. It's very good for poking flower stems into and absorbing water, but very bad for protecting an expensive musical instrument...
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-02-27 19:13
There are Bb/Eb cases listed on you-know-where .fr - Etui double pour petite clarinette mib et clarinette sib.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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