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Re: "Voicing" is a crock

Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2010-03-04 22:30

For me, the tongue changes timbre, "tone colour", if you want. For pitch use the jaw (or embouchure).
Both do have an effect on perceived pitch - the tongue in changing the numbers of higher partials, overtones, the jaw in the fundamental pitch.

An electronic tuner will probably be unimpressed by changes in tone colours, which seems to be what you were experiencing. Sometimes it is difficult to de-couple tongue movement from jaw movement. Like some of us roll their eyes skywards when that high note - a lot is subjective, and a lot of our bodily movements are intertwined in a number of ways.

Generally, I think you're right, even when I think that the pitch we believe we hear is different from what a tuner is hearing.

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Ben

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