Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2009-12-01 22:03
Mike wrote:
>> In the 3rd mvt. the second trill looks like it should be a B natural instead of a B flat, I think (because it's the leading tone of a V-I cadence in C). >>
Yes, that's right. Mistake on my part: the MS does indeed have a natural sign in front of it, which I should have reproduced.
>> Likewise, I think the nachschlag in the previous measure is probably a B natural, too.>>
Yes, I agree; however, this doesn't have a natural sign in the MS.
As you say, the context requires a B natural in both cases.
>> The next line down where the C# trills occur also looks funny, like it's missing an accidental somewhere. If the first C# trill is tied to the next C#, it seems like the next trill should have a sharp sign.>>
In this case, though, the 'next trill' doesn't have a sharp sign in the MS, though 'technically' it should have, in order to make sense. However, I have reproduced what is in the MS -- as had been my intention throughout.
You should clearly play C#.
>> On the other hand, if it's a slur rather than a tie, the second C# under the slur ought to have a sharp sign.>>
I don't really understand what you mean by the difference between a slur and a tie. There is a ligature connecting the two notes, written rather late in the bar.
To add to the confusion, in the MS, the nachschlag is incomplete; there is only one gracenote, a semiquaver C, with what might be a miswritten B or a sharp sign in front of it.
There are a couple of instances of this sort of inconsistency on Weber's part -- they don't excuse my own error above, of course -- but they, like my own error, are the sort of thing that a performer would 'naturally' correct. For instance, the first clarinet entry after the pause after the second time bar is written: (quaver rest) E G# B E F G A and then B in the next bar.
Everyone (rightly) plays F# and G#, not F natural and G natural.
The point of posting the pdf was a rather different one, however, to do with making clear the extent to which subsequent editing (as in the 'lusingando' section I mention in the the thread in which the pdf appears) routinely applies dynamic markings like crescendos, contra both Weber's MS and the classical tradition.
You might want to do that, of course; but you should at least have the option not to do so available to you.
Tony
Post Edited (2009-12-01 22:20)
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