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Author: diz
Date: 2008-08-04 03:25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Q...neClarinet.jpg
Strange creature.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: Ryder
Date: 2008-08-04 05:14
link was messed up...
I believe this is the picture you are speeking of in link form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:QuartertoneClarinet.jpg
Wow, that sure is practical. (said with sarcasm, if you can't tell)
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Ryder Naymik
San Antonio, Texas
"We pracice the way we want to perform, that way when we perform it's just like we practiced"
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Author: diz
Date: 2008-08-04 05:32
Ryder - about as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike ...
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-08-04 12:41
I don't think any inbred farmhands will ever entertain the concept of playing the clarinet, let alone a quartertone one. But at least they can count up to fourteen with just their fingers!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2008-08-04 15:12
How realistic is the notion of learning this quarter-tone instrument?
Yet when one practices a piece with many quarter-tones one has the impression of playing a different instrument, so foreign are the fingerings one has to sometimes use.
Approaching the issue of quarter-tones from a different angle (that quarter-tones are produced in the mouthpiece and not with fingering combinations)
IRCAM developed a mouthpiece that produces quarter-tones.
The following is my account of trying this quarter-tone mouthpiece, submitted to this list about a year ago:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=240578&t=240578
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Simon Aldrich
Clarinet Faculty - McGill University
Principal Clarinet - Orchestre Metropolitain de Montreal
Principal Clarinet - Orchestre de l'Opéra de Montreal
Artistic Director - Jeffery Summer Concerts
Clarinet - Nouvel Ensemble Moderne
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Author: mrn
Date: 2008-08-04 19:08
I know this sounds strange, but on closer inspection the quarter-tone instrument doesn't look like it would be much more difficult to play than a regular Oehler instrument. You push one key/pearl and the mechanism simply duplicates the same fingering on two different bores. Of course, you lose the ability to play half-hole fingerings that way, but everything's a tradeoff, I suppose.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-08-04 19:51
The rotary valve at the top selects which side is being played, but the fingerings still remain the same.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2008-08-05 01:01
Quater tone doesn't work.
If you want microtonality,the next step after 12 tone scale will be 29 or 53 tone scale system.
This 29 (or 53) equal temperament scale make s better intonations for
4th and 5th (and any other 12 scale intervals).
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Author: diz
Date: 2008-08-06 05:49
Chris you made me snort out loud! Thanks!
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2008-08-06 06:44
Koo- could you explain what you mean by, "Quarter tone doesn't work"?
Why 29 steps? And then 53? Why not 28 or 30?
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Author: Alfred
Date: 2008-08-06 06:56
Not only does that seem impractical, it's by far the ugliest instrument I've ever seen.
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2008-08-06 20:36
To skygardender:
I'll post a separate topic about 29 (and53) scale soon.
It's fascinating scale theory but nobody seems to know and nobody teaches.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2008-08-06 21:00
They had one on display at the museum of music in Prague when I was there a few years ago. Darn glass case...
I just had another thought, though... the mechanism/tube that makes it a quarter tone lower... if they would extend it a bit further, you could have a combo Bb/A clarinet. No quick mouthpiece swaps, no transposition.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2008-08-07 07:42
Alex- A 'Bb/A combo clarinet'!? That's just crazy talk! Who could ever find something like that useful?
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2008-08-07 12:40
A combe clarinet was developed, Rendall talks about one in his book. The 'Clarinette Multiphonique' by Triebert. The patent was 1884 and was made bt E. Albert
Peter Cigleris
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